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[–] oce@jlai.lu 266 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Someone forbade you to make music?

[–] lung@lemmy.world 135 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah, ugly ppl still make the music, behind the scenes :p

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

Just about to comment this. Singers these days are usually the "face."

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 118 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (7 children)

^ Uses 80s iconography to make fun of GenX's parents.

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 90 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (18 children)

Pop is just as manufactured and fake as it always was, with the exceptional trend setter or two doing their own thing, but what's just below the surface is always just as good as it always was.

As a fan of hardcore, electronica, folk, metal, and all of the genres that fall under them, I still get new bands. I still get new releases. I get cheap as fuck concerts and still get cool merch and awesome vinyls. I have zero to complain about. Hell, Primus, A Perfect Circle and Puscifer just made an album together, in 2024.

Anyone who says music sucks now doesn't really listen to that much music to start with. Music is just fine, man. Maybe look a little deeper than the pudding skin.

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[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 90 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Ugly people make music all the time.

You really gonna tell me Ed Sheeran is good looking? Post Malone?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago

He looked better pre-Malone

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But the contention is about music being better, and that's some bad music.

[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Did we read the same post?

Music was better when ugly people were allowed to make it

I guess your comment makes sense if you find those two attractive.

Like I get the boomer joke of music these days sucks but my comment was leaning into joke.

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[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 71 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Yea that's why metal fuckin rules. We got the ugliest guys ever altogether in one room and said "what you got?" and they became legends

And for anyone that might say that doesn't happen anymore, I ask: how many open mic nights or $20 shows have you been to lately? The scene is doing great in my area, but it doesn't happen by magic. Ya gotta support it, spread the word, bring your friends.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

More of a hardcore guy myself but we're equally as ugly so I stand in solidarity

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, no kidding. I just bought tickets for a $15 show that has multiple bands and included a overseas band. I mentioned to them that they should’ve upped the prices to $20.

Also: Sturgeon‘s law still applies: “90% of everything is crap“. Music is so amazingly easy to make these days you can do it on your phone (and I believe a Grammy nominated/winning album did so). Which means that there are literally thousands of albums every year, And so there will be a lot of crap. But between Bandcamp and Spotify and SoundCloud (and so on, even self-hosting), this is the freaking plutonium age if you like new music. There is literally so much that you can’t possibly keep up with it, even in sub genres. And there are some amazing gems coming out daily

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 70 points 2 months ago

"Ugly" people still make music but apparently you don't listen to it. Shameful, tbh.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Video killed the radio star

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 15 points 1 month ago

And the guest rappers killed the guitar solo.

https://youtu.be/evCsdT99Iog

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is this showerthoughts or oldbumperstickers?

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Not every thought I have in the shower is original.

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

"music was better when..."

Any version of this makes the speaker sound suuuper old and bitter. 😂

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[–] MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is the kind of boomer post you make if you haven't followed music in 20 years.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What do you think "video killed the radio star" was about?

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Well.. in my mind and in my car, we can't rewind, we've gone too far.

Oh-a-a-a-Oh

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

ugly people aren't allowed to make music anymore?

well fuck me then.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 32 points 2 months ago (11 children)

its why ed sheeran was killed he made music

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Lol, do you think only pop star music exist? It's actually the contrary that happend. Now, more than ever, anyone can make music. This is a really bad take.

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[–] Juice@midwest.social 29 points 2 months ago

What do you mean? there are plenty of British recording artists

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah no, that's just a cranky old guy thought. Just today I was watching fairly average looking people promoting music on late shows. You're probably getting a very thin slice of pop music and ignoring everything else (and hell, even pop breaks that rule sometimes).

Plus, physical beauty and music are both subjective. I try to not get all "old man yells at cloud" about how music "used to be better".

[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Tbf, I think radio absolutely used to be better before iheart and their ilk bought fucking everything and turned every goddamn station into a hypersanitized prepackaged mix of the same 10 bloody songs over and over. Therefore, by extension, I could 100% see how someone basing their opinion on what actually gets radio play could easily arrive at the conclusion that music is worse now.

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[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Video killed the radio star

[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

God, the irony of MTV playing this as their very first music video.

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago
[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think music staring going downhill when music was no longer an audio only thing. Once bands were expected to make videos, posters, and "act" on stage, suddenly a lot of musicians had problems getting into the business. They want to make music, not become pseudo-actors.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago (4 children)

So you're saying that.... video killed the radio star..?

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[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 24 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Not really related to that stupid boomer post, but ho crazy is it that that ugly british lady won music star or popstar or whatever and everyone was like: oh my god this is insane, ugly people can do things? They are almost like real people.

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Beauty is, of course, in the eye of the beholder, but this is Richard Goodall. He's a school janitor in my town of Terre Haute, Indiana and he just won America's Got Talent. He will probably have at least a somewhat successful musical career after this. He really blew people away.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't think music has gotten any worse. However, it is much easier and cheaper to produce music today: you don't have to be able to play an instrument and professional production is possible with comparatively inexpensive software on any standard computer. This and also the changes in distribution (no more need for sound carriers, ...) have probably led to a lot more music being produced today than in the past. Of course, this does not mean that music has become better as a result, but it also does not mean that it has become worse. You just have to find the gems among the admittedly gigantic amount of junk.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I somewhat disagree.

Music seems like it's followed a similar trajectory of most things where it's become more centralized and mass marketed. Music has to appeal to the masses for studios to pick it up. So there is an incentive to find music that appeals to the most people and turns off the fewest.

Similarly, you have a handful of studios telling you what is "good" and pushing it. Even if it isn't great, it's good enough that people listen and then they can create the hype behind it where it might not organically exist.

Some music bubbles up organically from independent artists but quite a bit is mass marketed and produced by big studios. And they have the money so they can choke out smaller artists.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Ah yes, ugly singers like:

Elvis Presley
Frank Sinatra
John Bon Jovi
Freddie Mercury
Aretha Franklin

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[–] saroh@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Indie labels still allow ugly people on stage!

Pop / major label's job is more on the money side than the music. We don't see ugly people in adverts either.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Music was better when I used to look at the back of an album and the credits were like a dozen people. I'm sorry to people who like Beyonce, Gaga etc. But you look at their albums and they have hundreds of writers, engineers, producers, mixers, etc. What do these celebrities actually do anymore? Just show up and read the lines and the crew takes care of the rest? I'm sorry but that to me isn't a good artist or musician, that's just manufactured branding.

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