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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

"Ugly" and "good music" are subjective

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[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I'd like to thank this thread for reminding me to check out some new music. Just today, I have discovered MJ Lenderman and Still House Plants who both seem to be doing some cool stuff that's right up my alley. There's a new Mogwai track released a few days back and Sumac just released an amazing sludge metal album, even though I'm not really into sludge, it might convert me. A quick few image searches shows me that none of them are particularly attractive. Music has always been, and always will be awesome regardless of the physical appeal of the lead singers.

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Ugly people ~~are still~~ have always been making it, pop acts have just make a pretty person pretend to sing it it sells better.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am convinced that producers go out with a company checkbook and standard boilerplate, find acts that have good songs, then buy the rights to those songs.

They then give the songs to larger pop artists and never credit the original artist because there is no need. They likely pay well for a decent song.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

They do.
It's extremely rare that people like Taylor Swift get as big as she is from writing her own songs.

There are actual classes you can take on how to write pop songs, taught by people who made pop artists big.

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ugly people aren't allowed to make music anymore?

well fuck me then.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

its why ed sheeran was killed he made music

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

F in chat for ed sheeran, and ugly ugly man, who made not very good music, but was loved by, some people.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (7 children)

it was hilarious seeing him on game of thrones. my buddy told me in one of the next episodes id see someone id recognize and i never thought itd be him 😂

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

"music was better when..."

Any version of this makes the speaker sound suuuper old and bitter. 😂

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

My highschool music is better than your highschool music!

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

I had a luthier tell me how much was much better before the record. How artists would perform live and have to do their best in these performances.

Once records came around all the artists sold out and it has been downhill from there.

“Ok, can I have my guitar back, please…”

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 85 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

Pop is just as manufactured and fake as it always was, with the exceptional trend setter or two doing their own thing, but what's just below the surface is always just as good as it always was.

As a fan of hardcore, electronica, folk, metal, and all of the genres that fall under them, I still get new bands. I still get new releases. I get cheap as fuck concerts and still get cool merch and awesome vinyls. I have zero to complain about. Hell, Primus, A Perfect Circle and Puscifer just made an album together, in 2024.

Anyone who says music sucks now doesn't really listen to that much music to start with. Music is just fine, man. Maybe look a little deeper than the pudding skin.

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[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Ugly people make music all the time.

You really gonna tell me Ed Sheeran is good looking? Post Malone?

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But the contention is about music being better, and that's some bad music.

[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Did we read the same post?

Music was better when ugly people were allowed to make it

I guess your comment makes sense if you find those two attractive.

Like I get the boomer joke of music these days sucks but my comment was leaning into joke.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Ah yes, ugly singers like:

Elvis Presley
Frank Sinatra
John Bon Jovi
Freddie Mercury
Aretha Franklin

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget Serge Gainsbourg

https://www.letribunaldunet.fr/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/serge-gainsbourg-mort-seul-revelations-.jpg

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What do you think "video killed the radio star" was about?

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[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not really related to that stupid boomer post, but ho crazy is it that that ugly british lady won music star or popstar or whatever and everyone was like: oh my god this is insane, ugly people can do things? They are almost like real people.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 24 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I think music staring going downhill when music was no longer an audio only thing. Once bands were expected to make videos, posters, and "act" on stage, suddenly a lot of musicians had problems getting into the business. They want to make music, not become pseudo-actors.

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[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

MC Ride with Beyonce

Just because you aren’t Beyoncé doesn’t mean you aren’t beautiful.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lewis Capaldi isn't ugly?! Lol

Sorry Lewis no shade intended

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[–] saroh@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Indie labels still allow ugly people on stage!

Pop / major label's job is more on the money side than the music. We don't see ugly people in adverts either.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Listen to ugly people music (or vtuber music, same thing (na, just kidding around with vtuber insecurities (help I'm trapped inside this nested parenthesis))) nevermind, got out.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 day ago

Don't forget about the halo effect. Someone on stage doing a killer set is going to seem hotter. When someone is good at one thing, we start to think they're good at everything (where being hot is a thing).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

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