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cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/22423685

EDIT: For those who are too lazy to click the link, this is what it says

Hello,

Sad news for everyone. YouTube/Google has patched the latest workaround that we had in order to restore the video playback functionality.

Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won't work anymore.

If you are interested to install Invidious at home, we remind you that we have a guide for that here: https://docs.invidious.io/installation/..

This is not the death of this project. We will still try to find new solutions, but this might take time, months probably.

I have updated the public instance list in order to reflect on the working public instances: https://instances.invidious.io. Please don't abuse them since the number is really low.

Feel free to discuss this politely on Matrix or IRC.

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[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Not just invidious, they've just de facto blocked video embedding:

If you're wondering how a viable competitor could arise, other companies needing a video hosting solution that they can rely on to run their storefronts is a perfect use case. This is the Humble Bundle storefront, and they could pretty easily spin up a peertube instance. If that became commonplace, it could be one way for peertube to become ubiquitous.

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

newpiped and freetube will continue to work but piped is also blocked as well

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[–] Nima@leminal.space 78 points 7 hours ago (8 children)

i absolutely despise youtube. these fuckers are putting ads on paused videos now, and then this.

they will never get better. only worse. we need regulations badly.

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 52 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

We need a competitor badly.

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Peertube/Odysee exist, even if they are relatively niche.

[–] hostops@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Competitor with no content, users is not a competitor. Youtube should be forced to share content they do not own. Just for the sake of competition.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 hour ago

The content isn't the problem. It's the delivery system. No one else has the storage and network capacity that Youtube has. And as a result of that, no one else has the built-in audience Youtube has. Putting your videos on YT is simply the best way to get views.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Sad to hear. Newpipe is still working fine (as of a couple minutes ago) if that helps. That's through a residential IP. I will try yt-dlp from a data center IP when I get a chance. I hope they haven't blocked that.

[–] geography082@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I would suggest the devs to be able to create instances from within tor. It would be slow, but impossible to block. Or from any other network that don’t rely on single IP access to YouTube . Or, make a mesh of collaborative home instances. Google can’t block millions of home IPs. Or use any mesh collaborative network capable of it.

[–] shadowtofu@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 hours ago

TOR exit node IP addresses are well-known. If YouTube wants to, they can just block the TOR network.

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[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 55 points 6 hours ago (25 children)

Start asking your favourite content creators to post on PeerTube.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

or odysee ig but i cannot find a good peertube instance i can post in

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 52 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

And how are they going to make a living to keep producing videos?

I’d say ask them to join Nebula.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 13 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

That depends. If they only make a living with YT ads, then it’s going to be hard.

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I guess I forgot things like Patreon which could be a valid option. Although I’m neither a fan of subscribing to specific creators nor am I particularly fond of Patreon.

With Nebula my perception is that I pay a monthly fee and they can figure out who gets what depending on whose videos I watched. I don’t need to be particular in my action on who to support.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Nebula is a good option, but now you've created a paywall. Now only people who can afford it, can watch the content and what is to keep Nebula from upping the price of the subscription?

If ads is out of the question, then content creators need to use sponsors and patrons, if they want to make a living.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

An advantage of funding things via a collective like Nebula as opposed to each individual creator managing their own patrons is that new creators can start making bigger, more expensive projects quicker. Even established creators have this advantage, they can take bigger risks on bigger projects with the safety net of a share of the nebula pie.

I don't think a project like The Prince would exist without Nebula, for example.

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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

About half the ads I see on YouTube are already within the videos they post. I wonder what the overall ratio is of YouTube ad revenue versus in-video ad revenue.

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[–] sag@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Civvie 11 is a old head. How do I convince him?

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 hours ago

What have you tried so far?

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 42 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

You can still watch YouTube without ads using grayjay.app including sponsor block.

Thanks to Louis Rossman

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 50 minutes ago (2 children)

grayjay doesnt have return youtube dislike

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[–] polle@feddit.org 34 points 4 hours ago (13 children)

Or just use Firefox with ublock?

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[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 25 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

You can block YouTube ads simply by connecting to an Albanian VPN server.

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[–] hollyberries@programming.dev 17 points 6 hours ago

Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won't work anymore.

This might explain why mine has been reliable even though it hasn't been updated in months. I guess add me to the list of confirmations that it works on residential connections.

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