Did terrorist attack on civilians break international law? I dont think we even have international law anymore.
this post was submitted on 20 Sep 2024
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Yes. This isnt the first time Israel has broken these laws...
Israel ignored an order from the U.N.’s top court to halt its military offensive in southern Gaza after South Africa accused Israel of genocide. Russia, too, has ignored the court’s call for it to end its invasion of Ukraine.
There is zero logical reason to treat Russia and Israel differently.
There is zero logical reason to treat Russia and Israel differently.
There remains one important difference - Oct 7
politics has never been logical.
The article on the post links to another one, https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-palestinians-court-ceasefire-01d093d21a1eadaa31af5708cf1cbf38
From that,
stopped short of ordering a cease-fire for the enclave
Hmm, but what does it mean to halt a military offensive without having a cease-fire?
While I don't understand that bit, this part here I do.
the court doesn’t have a police force to enforce its orders.
I think in general we do need to have these international courts examining these situations and making rulings about it. It provides necessary justification to individual countries to back Palestine and condemn Israel, especially while Oct 7 remains unforgotten and unsolved.
You're wrong. There's one reason (whether it's logical or not, I'm not discussing it):
The US supports one but not the other one.
Edit: Seeing the downvotes, the message might have been misunderstood: what I'm saying is that if we're treating them differently it is only because the US supports Israel so Netanyahu the nazi gets a free pass.
idk if it matters, but there is the nuance that russia and Ukraine were friends once and russia backstabbed them, while palestine and israel never were friends and it's a smoldering conflict with 80 years of atrocities on both sides, that now escalated into this new dimension of a shitshow.
People of all religions used to coexist in the area before the Brits declared they were in charge and segregation was a good idea.
Should have had a flag...
No flag, no country, those are the rules I just made up!
The Brits? Try the Third Crusade.
Jews did not have equal rights in the Jerusalem Sanjak until the Ottoman Reform Edict of 1856.
Before that you had things like the 1847 ethnic cleansing of Jews in Jerusalem, or the 1834 looting of Safed.
That's not true, but you said it confidently so people upvoted it without source...
Also this goal post moving back when we talk about something happening today is stupid. If the Ottoman had a rule that they live together then we can assume that has nothing to do with the UK Shipping Jewish and Zionist from Europe to peaceful country.
First sucide bomber was Christian, First terrorists group is what today called IDF. People from these generation still alive today. And this why this is not "Jew vs Arab" this is "Zionist vs Palestinians"
The both sides argument ignores the difference in scale. Palestinian atrocities are on the scale or killing a family or blowing up a bus, while Israeli atrocities are more on the massacring a village or blowing up a 100 member family to oblivion level.
You understand that's only from lack of resources? It's not from lack of trying?
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Politics under the guise of religious differences?
And somehow Israel gets military aid in the exact same US bill that allocated Ukraine's aid and nobody's head exploded: no politician, no mainstream journalists...
Well Hamas is no Ukraine but sure
Hamas isn't a territory. Gaza is. Israel is invading Gaza.
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An investigation into whether Israel violated international law? I wonder who will veto that?
US can only veto security council resolutions. ICC doesn't need UNSC to investigate.
Same result - UN won't take military action, but ICC can still proceed.
I mean… if it didn’t, we’re probably gonna need at least one new international law.
What I'm saying, it clearly doesn't look like it should be OK.
Oh, no disagreement there
Realistically the indescriminant nature of this attack with high likelyhood of civilian casualties it probably will be classified similarly to cluster munitions and be banned, and nations with enough geopolitical weight to skirt these rules will continue to skirt them then play dumb when they're called out and hauled in front of the ICC, ultimately facing zero repercussions
Funny how the only articles breaking Betteridge's law of headlines has been about Israel doing war crime things.
Is Ismail Haniyeh's assassination a setback for Israel-Hamas peace talks?
I mean yeah investigate it but I think we all know that Israel doesn't give a fuck.
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