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Element is launching the world’s first communications platform based on the upcoming Matrix 2.0 release. The result is blazing performance which outperforms the mainstream alternatives - across a decentralised system that enables self-hosting and end-to-end encryption - as well as open standard interoperability to revolutionise real time communication between large organisations.

Built on Matrix 2.0, Element X now rivals the performance of centralised consumer messaging apps, empowering organisations to address the shadow IT issues caused by consumer-grade messaging apps in the workplace.

The new Element communications solution consists:

  • Element X, our next-gen app with an array of new features
  • Element Call fully integrated into Element X, for native Matrix-encrypted voice and video
  • Element Server Suite, our backend hosting solution for powerful admin control and Matrix 2.0 performance
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[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I had just uninstalled Element X like two weeks ago because I found it to under perform compared to the normal Element client on Android, in addition to lacking some features. I guess I'll give it another shot.

Update: WOW this thing feels lightning fast compared to just a few weeks ago. This is great. Not sure about feature completeness, but based on speed I think I'll migrate Element > Element X again. Great job to the team!

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It hans't changed speedwise for me. It has been lightning fast since it's first release

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[–] Preflight_Tomato@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m still sad they stopped work on dendrite. P2P level decentralization, with E2EE, would be amazing.

These are still great improvements though. I'm hyped that loading seems to be so much faster.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They didn't though? Source?

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[–] qaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What's the difference between the normal app and element X? Why create a new app?

EDIT: I installed it, but can't verify for some reason.

EDIT: It works now, and it's very fast compared to the other client. It's a shame spaces aren't supported.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Normy here, I think it's a whole different framework which is faster and more reliable I think. Also the normal app technology outdated so maybe it's difficult to add new features to it.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Good ol' Rust Rewrite fixing everything.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Screensharing would let so many people move from discord

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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What's matrix 2.0? Are they finally gonna use the go backend as opposed to the python one?

[–] tmpod 5 points 1 day ago

Not exactly. Matrix 2.0 relates to the protocol (Matrix) version, which has its major number incremented due to a bunch of, well, major changes/updates to make it much better. OIDC, sliding sync and native calls are some of the new things that comprise the 2.0 update.

The server implementations are somewhat orthogonal to this. Synapse (the original Python server) is still the main implementation, and is Matrix 2.0 ready.

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[–] azron@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 days ago (3 children)

"invisible cryptography" I sure hope this isn't an empty promise. The number one gripe I have with matrix/element is the absolutely horrendous crypto dance they make you do.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's probably the number one reason I can't convince friends to move over, I know they would bawk at how it makes them do that on every device

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 10 points 2 days ago

while I agree that there are too many problems right now, 2 things really can't be avoided:

  • setting up key backup after registration asap
  • verifying your new logged in devices, possibly with the key backup password

well, unless they are fine with using it like signal, which is basically one device only

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The last time I used element x was probably a couple months ago and I wouldn't really call it 'production ready'. But I guess I'll have to try it again.

Element x still doesn't have support for spaces. Trying to navigate between rooms just by scrolling through one huge list is a nightmare.

[–] tmpod 9 points 1 day ago

I still don't think it's there, but development hss been fast, so a lot has changed and improved in the last couple of months.

[–] Scio@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Still no Spaces support. Even the short list of rooms I've joined are unmanageable when listed flat with no way to identify which Space a #general belongs to

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is dependent on matrix-rust-sdk, when (if) it ends up supporting it, all apps using the SDK will be able to add support for spaces

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[–] anarchist@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Not available on f droid yet it seems

[–] DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

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[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Indeed, probably in the coming days

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[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don’t like what I see in the iOS app stores privacy section for the app.

[–] grimer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Element is able to use features called "Integration Manager" and "Identity Server". When using an Identity Server, you can choose to link name, email, and phone number to your Matrix account. When using an Integration Manager, there's a feature to share your location with others in chat.

As such, Vector discloses that they "collect this information", although (except some diagnostics), this is completely optional.

(I am not associated with Vector, just interested in Matrix)

[–] grimer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Ah interesting ok. So basically even though it CAN link all of that info to you and such doesn't mean that it WILL if you opt out of things. Is that correct?

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