Element is launching the world’s first communications platform based on the upcoming Matrix 2.0 release. The result is blazing performance which outperforms the mainstream alternatives - across a decentralised system that enables self-hosting and end-to-end encryption - as well as open standard interoperability to revolutionise real time communication between large organisations.

Built on Matrix 2.0, Element X now rivals the performance of centralised consumer messaging apps, empowering organisations to address the shadow IT issues caused by consumer-grade messaging apps in the workplace.

The new Element communications solution consists:

Element X, our next-gen app with an array of new features

Element Call fully integrated into Element X, for native Matrix-encrypted voice and video

Element Server Suite, our backend hosting solution for powerful admin control and Matrix 2.0 performance

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[–] azron@lemmy.ml 57 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"invisible cryptography" I sure hope this isn't an empty promise. The number one gripe I have with matrix/element is the absolutely horrendous crypto dance they make you do.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's probably the number one reason I can't convince friends to move over, I know they would bawk at how it makes them do that on every device

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

while I agree that there are too many problems right now, 2 things really can't be avoided:

setting up key backup after registration asap
verifying your new logged in devices, possibly with the key backup password

well, unless they are fine with using it like signal, which is basically one device only

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Signal can have multiple devices, I have it on my phone and laptop.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that must be a relatively new feature

[–] keepthepace@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not really, have used it for years like that. But you need to set it up initially on your phone. The newish feature (less than a year) is that I think they do not require a phone number to set up a new account.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The newish feature (less than a year) is that I think they do not require a phone number to set up a new account.

How do you do that? A few days ago I have registered again, and I didn't see the option. Didn't you perhaps mean that the app can hide phone numbers?

[–] keepthepace@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah that must be it sorry. I thought they had decorelated phone numbers and IDs

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I must mention though that their solution is not really efficient. Everyone's app gets the phone number, its just not displayed anymore. This can be circumvented with a little modification of the app, which is easy because it's open source.

[–] keepthepace@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Good to know, thanks!

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

(part 2) technically, though, the other part of it is still the case: if you haven't set yo key backup and you lost your phone, don't be surprised if you can't recover all your messages

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 2 months ago

I studied cryptography and I can't figure out how to do the dance right. I thought I did, but one of my contacts says they can't read any message I send them. And I can't message them to figure out why.

We haven't spoken since. Thanks Matrix.

[–] Rexios@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? Even before this new “invisible cryptography” you set it up once per device and never have to think about it again.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

except for the "unable to decrypt" errors, and when new invitees can't read previous messages