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[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Go ahead and pull em in the wall! Don't be scared. Worst case the world is ending anyways

[–] lauro@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Well that's reassuring

[–] TheFlame@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Damn, you’re right.

[–] ledditor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Damn. When you look at it that way, I could probably justify attempting a lot of difficult things that way. Thanks!

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[–] ParanoidPizzas@aussie.zone 44 points 1 year ago (8 children)

When I was 15, my dad purchased me a plaster saw (still have it) and handed me his drill.

Then told me to make it look neat, but "don't fuck up because your mother will kill us both".

I ran about 4 network points through the house.

Nothing like fear to produce a 100% perfect finish 😉

[–] tehgamemail@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then there's me who just screwed up installing a new door knob. I stripped the threads on the screws cause I used the wrong size screws drilling. Now if the new knob fails in the future, I need to buy a new door lmao

[–] helixdaunting@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

If it's a wooden door that you're screwing into, dab some match sticks with a little bit of liquid nails and gently hammer them into the stripped-out screw hole, and cut them flush with the hole. Once the glue dries, you can drive the screw back into the matches and it'll have enough wood to bite into.

[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are getting hung up on the "liquid nails" when I think any old carpenter's glue would work.

You don't even need any adhesive if you simply shove in a toothpick or two before screwing in the screw. Remember: you don't need to completely fill the hole, just enough to fill in the space between the too-big screw and the right-sized screw

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[–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Join forces and do link aggregation for double the speeds.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LACP won't get ya double throughput sadly.

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[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A tale as old as time. Before Ethernet cables we were running phone extension cables through the house to connect up the modem to the only phone jack.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I am old enough to remember those good old days!

[–] Gojiras_Rage@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had to buy carpets to hide the cable under them when running across the floor. Only exposed parts go through the doorways, and the wife complains about them. Well, I am not complaining about our craptastic wifi anymore.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (11 children)

If you own your house you could learn to pull cable and how to do punchdowns. It's not a super difficult job. That way you could impress the lady of the house with your technical skills while also hiding the mess.

[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

In my experience, the part about hiding the mess is all she cared about, as long as "the internet still works."

But you will always look at that wall jack and feel great about it while always having the lowest latency and highest throughput you can possibly get, and that will always impress yourself!

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did this for every device in my house. used flat ethernet cable and just fished it under the carpets. Was significantly cheaper than trying to make wireless reach the other side of the house.

[–] Cloudygrey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Flat ethernet cable

What?!! I did not know this existed!!

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[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was staying with some friends and we were all Computer users and gamers, Ethernet cables sprawled across the floor to every room in the place, and when we got tired of tripping over it, we duct taped them down to the floor where they stayed until we moved out.

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[–] MaxTepafray@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can either spend $20 on the cable or you can pay $2000 for a professional to buy it and stick it in the wall.

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[–] blackluster117@possumpat.io 8 points 1 year ago

Worth it every time.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You could just use 2 Ethernet Over Power adaptors (not to be confused with power over ethernet).

After all, it's not as if the powerlines aren't already installed at home and connect all power plugs with all other power plugs.

This isn't even new: I've been using this solution for about a decade, back when it could do a mere 20Mb/s (which was still way faster than my Internet connection could handle back then ;))

Unless having a 500Mb/s limit on bandwith is somehow unacceptable when you could have Gigabit ethernet. Then again, why not fibre all the way ;)

[–] Entheogen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Have you ever paid attention to packet loss?

Honest question, because I'm an electrician and Ethernet is so fickle, I've always assumed it would play hell on the overall quality.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

The whole thing is layered into multiple levels (go check the OSI Model and its Layers on Wikipedia if you're willing to go down that specific information hole ;)) and the physical layer should mainly be handling packet loss on the connection between those adaptors, transparently to the higher layers that just see that as lower bandwidth than the spec for the adaptors (a spec which is really quite optimistic, IMHO).

Yeah, a cable with a metal sheaf wired to the GND level (i.e. Cat cable) is going to be way better at higher frequencies and at isolation from noise that two twisted copper wires were the network signal is shared with a different "signal" which whilst generally 50/60Hz (depending on country) can have spikes and noise at other frequencies, so it's never going to be the same.

However for example at home right now I can get a reliable 100 Mbit/s over a pair of those adaptors from my router to my PC and the speed limitation is actually (I believe) from my old router not supporting Gigabit Ethernet rather than from the adaptors which are supposed to handle up to 500 Mbit/sec.

That said and as somebody pointed out, it only works well if the plugs you're connecting are on the same electrical network, as transversing coils isn't exactly great for high frequency signals.

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[–] BRabbit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My experience is that you need to be sure the outlets are on the same electrical network, otherwise it doesn't work. When I did get it to work it seemed to be reliable.

[–] RedShadowWizard@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Are you...are you in the walls?

[–] You_Are_Breathing@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's either deal with the distance with a wireless network (which can't even reach my current bedroom in my house) or deal with concrete walls that also cuts down the Wi-Fi signal in my new bedroom.

Then again, my home's network is due for an upgrade because it's 17 years old, so I just need to convince my family to upgrade to CAT6 cabling and a faster Wi-Fi router.

[–] Wooly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Do people not know power line ethernet adapters are a thing? Look if up on Amazon, you just plug one into the wall by your router and one next to your PC. Clean and strong connections.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There’s a few caveats to this. I had a good set of powerline adapters that still ended up with worse performance than a usb wireless dongle.

If the outlets are in different circuits or you have a house with old wiring there’s a good chance they won’t work

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[–] Reken@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

From my experience, power line adapters are very hit or miss depending on your house setup. I've had power line adapters that couldn't even get above 10 Mbps. I feel like the next best thing besides just straight up Ethernet cables is something called MoCA adapters. They use the already existing (in most houses) coax cables, which allow for much higher throughput and very consistent connection. I've had peaks of 850-900 Mbps with 10ms latency using MoCA adapters.

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