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Absolutely no surprise there. When you keep the barrier to entry low and throw in an algorithm to increase βengagementβ via outrage, the soup turns to poison quickly.
This is why every time someone says the Fediverse is βtoo confusing,β I just smile and nod. That attitude of petulant, lazy, self-imposed gatekeeping is whatβs keeping the Fediverse a much nicer place to be.
If the βhotβ and βactiveβ filters continue to work as expected and bots get reasonably moderated or blocked, I donβt even think Lemmy needs a high barrier to entry or petulance. The most important thing is to not optimize any recommendation or sorting algorithm on session duration, ads seen before closing session, and revenue per user.
This is so true and people seem to have a really hard time seeing this. The cultures on other social sites are far more manufactured than we'd like to believe. I think the human driven systems of Lemmy and Mastodon are brilliant but the true killer feature of the fediverse is going to be an open content recommendation algorithm. A collectively developed non-profit driven algorithm would undoubtedly be better at surfacing positive impact content than either system.
It's concerning just how many people can't be bothered to spend 5 minutes to pick an instance... Keeps it nicer for us though
I don't really think it's fair to pretend that, before two weeks ago, anyone under god had any idea what an instance was unless they were already heavily tech-oriented.
It took me hours of trying to read through not-my-kind-of-jargon to understand what the hell I was looking at and what kind of consequences that unexplained choice would have, and it really seems like a good number of users that initially struggled forget the learning curve extremely quickly the moment they're over it.
It took me hours of trying to read through not-my-kind-of-jargon to understand
I started off going down that road of trying to understand it, but my laziness and impatience got in the way and said "just start using it and you'll work it out." And that's exactly what happened for me. In a way, the explanations made it all sound much more confusing than it really is. Sometimes you just gotta take a deep breath and dive in.
My first instinct would be to say, "This is the 21st century, learn to use a damn computer already!" But then I think of the long term and WANT people to think it's too hard to join Mastodon or Kbin, just to keep the average IQ of these sites above room temperature.
Absolutely agree. I love the high barrier to entry and how it has kept the conversations (for the most part) more substantial.
Well said! A high barrier to entry, and a low barrier to exit working as intended. Let's enjoy the good times while they last.
This this this. The fediverse being "confusing" keeps the idiots, boomers, trolls, and overall horrible people away. Having to learn something new is too much for those people. Lemmy/Mastodon and so on are "nerd" platforms, and I really like it that way.
Great, and theyβre going to try to federate? Hope it doesnβt go well for them.
Maybe we'll finally be cool enough to get banned - Klanned Karenhood
Oh, you could have been that cool already. Just do as Ijeoma Oluo did.
Provoke the racists. They will come flooding into your inbox with death threats.
Report the messages to Meta so they can say, "doesn't violate our community standards."
Screenshot the messages and Meta's enabling response, and post them publicly on your Facebook page to show how seriously Meta takes right-wing death threats and hate speech.
Done. Banned "for posting hate speech." You could have been cool all along, Klanned Karenhood. You just have to go after the right people.
I've reported some fucked up shit yet somehow it never violates their standards.
Same on Twitter. Back pre-Elron I was suspended for the stupidest crap: I said I thought Trump would be too old to run for office next year, as he lived an unhealthy lifestyle. That was "wishing harm or violence", like, what? I didn't voice an opinion about whether I was all happy about that or something, just simply made that statement. Then someone was joking about the Will Smith thing and something about Kid Rock and I said Hillary Clinton should be the one to slap Kid Rock. That was also horribly violent of me. I appealed and they said NO, YOu are VERY BAD, SORRY. What a waste of time. It's offensive, too. Meanwhile I've reported things like people saying vile racist insults and literally saying they want someone to die, and I get the reply that sorry, they reviewed it and the comment was fine. I'm sure the process is even worse now.
Honestly apps like Threads and Twitter should just be a containment site for these types of people. Let them be...
If threads scoops up all the people who turned twitter and reddit into celebrity gossip meme ghettos and keeps them in the shallow end of the pool then everybody wins
We're this close to conservatives referring to trans people like ((this)).
I thought they went beyond that when they started calling for the "eradication" of trans people and suggesting they should face firing squads.
Nazis have always been the most progressive, referring to Jewish people as the gender neutral (((them))).
Holy shit, they launched Threads pre-enshittified. Massive time saver if you ask me.
Ah I see it has already became a toxic shit hole. Need the toxic people for that sweet rage engagement.
Rage engagement...That's a good way to describe it...Now what if we combine the words...Enragement!
I've never had to block one person in my entire time on the Fediverse.
I've had to block a dozen in the first hour on Threads.
As the internet becomes more available, mass adoption leads to communities that are very unbalanced. And, more often than not, leaning towards personas we tend to avoid in real life. Reason being, the barrier to entry is not as high. Curiosity is a byproduct of education/environment and lead people to apply resourcefulness to uncover sites/forums/messageboards with like minded people. Yes, echochambers in a way, but these echo chambers were not driven by political beliefs, but rather simple mannerisms and etiquette. Toxicity on sites like Youtube, Reddit, Threads, Twitter, have increased, because Curiosity didn't drive discovery/account creation, ads or fomo did instead. Mastodon/Lemmy (Fediverse) communities, in my opinion, are still driven by curiosity. For how long, is the question I'd like to impose.
Why is everybody on these platforms "4 something" now? Politics isn't football, you don't pick your team and have to let everyone know about it.
Threads is already banned in Europe and won't withstand the scrutiny of Federation. Too many bigots. I'm certain Zuck doesn't care either way. The thing is set up as an advertising medium for the GOP. Same old Cambridge Analytica scheme repeating.
Momsforliberty. It does not matter where they go. Pure toxic.
Clusterfuck is happening!
In my country all the influencers are announcing the same things using the same template. I wonder if it's a subsidized or monetized shill.
Aside from political views, another social network will not help anything and is only another useless app to install.
Time and time again, it has been proven that "absolute free speech" online just attracts the absolute worst kind of people.
I did expected them to fail immediately, but this is way funnier than I expected. They either need to start banning immediately and start throwing money at celebs to use Threads, otherwise no one mainstream will ever advertise there.
Well.....as long as those types are happy with that shit, it means they won't come to the fed.
Zuck is going to make it real friendly so itβs gonna be nice and safe for advertisers
Maybe someone can fill me in on this because I don't know anything about it. "LibsofTiktok" is clearly just a right wing actor making liberal viewpoints look stupid, yeah? No one who actually identifies as "liberal" would ever willingly call themself a "lib."
The woman behind it has become a kind of conservative celebrity. She doxxes random people, especially teachers who talk about their sexuality on TikTok and sends her minions to harass them. In the past, she has caused bomb threats to children's hospitals for providing gender affirming care. She is about as despicable as a person can be.
She is behind bomb threats to the children's hospital in Boston. She is 100% ghoul.
"LibsofTiktok" is clearly just a right wing actor making liberal viewpoints look stupid, yeah?
Yes.
so goddamn exhausting
To delete your account, you will have to delete your Instagram account as well.
Good. People should delete all of their Meta accounts.
