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"when considered separately from other health issues" like all the detrimental byproducts of being morbidly obese?

lol, yes, a number can't hurt you, but being overweight has, can, and will. ffs.

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[–] melonpunk@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reading through the article it sounds like not a great study, not asking enough questions and not tracking key information, such as cause of death.

Sounds like one of those things where people are going to headline what they want out of it and use it to champion their bias. "Being overweight doesn't kill you, yay!" Nah, it's way more complicated than that. People with cancer and other diseases often lose weight, a lot of it, and studies like this don't do a good job of tracking this info.

[–] Risk@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After all, it's not the cancer that kills you - it's just the multi-organ failure.

[–] Ferk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

New study: cancer not linked to death.

[–] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

So many studies are exactly as you describe; here's what (bias) I want to prove, let's find (make up) some data to prove it.

Also, avoid cnn.com. What a trash site disguised as a news outlet.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought it was pretty well-known that BMI is a bullshit metric.

A short, thin, but bulky person can have an obese BMI because it doesn't take into account fat percentage or muscle mass. It's doesn't account for diet quality and it doesn't account for fitness.

A ratio of weight to height tells you basically nothing about your health.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The main issue is that BMI is just something for professionals to glance at when dealing with hundreds of patients, not a definitive system that individuals should use to inform their own lifestyle decisions. The reason it’s so popular is because it is really accurate for large populations in that context.

But what you actually want to figure out, if you want to evaluate whether you should change your weight or lifestyle, is your body fat percentage. The Navy body fat calculator is accurate to within 3%, but requires you to measure your waist, hip, and neck in addition to your height and weight. Still an estimate, but a much much better one than BMI

[–] ryannathans@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think what most people call overweight is obese, so clinically overweight might be ok?

[–] kabe@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But only slightly

The risk of death did rise by 18% to 108% for most people with BMI levels higher than 27.5, Visaria said, with risk rising as weight increased in a U-shaped curve.

So this headline really should read:

Being a little overweight may not be associated with early death (but being quite overweight, obese, or extremely obese is), study says.

What an absolute nothingburger of a news story.

[–] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What an absolute nothingburger of a news story. All of cnn

[–] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

eek why all that ugly formatting? I was only trying to quote.

[–] burningmatches@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

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[–] majkeli@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Key passage:
“The real message of this study is that overweight as defined by BMI is a poor indicator of mortality risk, and that BMI in general is a poor indicator of health risk and should be supplemented with information such as waist circumference, other measures of adiposity (fat), and weight trajectory,” said study first author Dr. Aayush Visaria, an internal medicine resident physician at the Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical School in New Brunswick, New Jersey.

[–] Kodachrome@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The Fediverse needs an r/fatlogic analog, made entirely of stretchy materials of course, where this kind of Fat Acceptance garbage can be posted. It's a special flavor of mildlyinfuriating, Now with 200% of the calories, but don't worry, it's healthy ... of course it is!

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