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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 394 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Suggesting that a war should be waged against the democratically-elected government of the United States seems... Well, it seems kinda treason-y to me. Just a smidge.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 234 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hey now, treason is very specifically defined in the constitution. Oh and yeah, that’s the constitutional definition. This is treason.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 119 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

To be fair, we have been very lenient with traitors lately. To the surprise of no one, treason becomes increasingly popular.

This is why we should have met treason aggressively and swiftly from the beginning.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago (4 children)

SCOTUS allows treason if it's an official act peculiar only to Trump.

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Republicans can have a little treason. As a treat.

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[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We've been very lenient with traitors since 1865.

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 22 points 4 months ago

To be fair, we have been very lenient with traitors lately.

Lately? We have been lenient since the last civil war!

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Hey treason is when Democrats do anything I don't like which means anything

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Its only real treason if it comes from the Treasony region of France. Otherwise its just called being a rebel.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

I miss when that mattered....

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 146 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How to demonstrate that you are against democracy in one simple step.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think Project 2025 is already enough proof. It's longer than Mein Kampf for Marx's sake

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 128 points 4 months ago (3 children)

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 4 months ago

The Trump presidency and the years since then have more than ever shown that the rules don't apply to everyone equally.

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago
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[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 94 points 4 months ago

I guarantee you a week ago this dude was crying because “Biden’s rhetoric was too crazy and led to the Trump shooting”

(Despite the fact the Trump shooter was a conservatuve)

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 93 points 4 months ago (1 children)

BREAKING: Fat white Ohio man wants others to do what he won’t do himself

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So many armchair generals in this world.

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[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 86 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Where are the Republicans whining at him to “turn the temperature down?”

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 75 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why are there no repercussions for shit like this? We've just given up holding them accountable, haven't we.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 72 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We’ll kick their asses again, just like we did in the War of Southern States Wanting to Keep Slaves.

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[–] NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org 72 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Biden should give an executive order to lock this guy up for treason.

When people complain about that, point to the SCOTUS decision that the president can do whatever the fuck he wants without legal repercussions.

If any of the people who complain even vaguely hint at violence in reaction to this, give an order to lock them up for treason, too.

Keep this cycle going until the last grunt has understood that this type of behavior will not stand.

Once all the people willing to call for violence are locked up, use the same reasoning to disband the current SCOTUS and replace it with something that is not an embarrassment for a modern democracy, with a strong recommendation to immediately renounce the ruling that made all of that legal.

By the time the dust has settled Biden will be too old to be persecuted for any of that anyway.


I know none of this will happen, writing it out just as a happy little fantasy.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 69 points 4 months ago (5 children)

"We need a civil war" says man completely unprepared and unwilling to fight in one.

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[–] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 59 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Enough is enough. Shit like this is putting us on a path for another insurrection.

Here is a sample letter to provide George Lang, especially if you are an OH resident. George Lang contact form

subject: "Call for Resignation Due to Undemocratic Remarks"

Dear Senator Lang,

I am writing to express my profound disappointment and concern regarding your recent comments about the potential need for a civil war if certain political outcomes are not achieved. Your statement, “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” is not only deeply irresponsible but also fundamentally undemocratic. Such rhetoric is dangerous and unbecoming of a public servant in a democratic society.

As a concerned citizen, I am compelled to voice my strong objection to your words. They undermine the very principles upon which our nation was founded: the peaceful transition of power and the rule of law. Democracy thrives on debate, disagreement, and ultimately, the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections. The suggestion that violence is an acceptable response to losing an election is antithetical to these principles.

An apology for this grave error is simply not sufficient. The damage caused by promoting the idea of civil unrest as a solution to political disagreement cannot be undone with mere words of regret. Your statement has the potential to incite division and violence, putting our nation and its citizens at risk.

In light of the seriousness of your comments, I call on you to resign from your position as a United States Senator. The responsibilities of your office require a commitment to uphold democratic values and to lead with integrity. Your recent remarks have shown a disregard for these responsibilities, and as such, stepping down is the most honorable course of action you can take for the sake of our country's stability and unity.

The United States faces numerous challenges that require thoughtful, collaborative solutions. It is imperative that our leaders prioritize dialogue and cooperation over divisive and inflammatory rhetoric. I urge you to consider the impact of your words and to take responsibility for them by resigning your seat.

Sincerely,

[Your First Name]

Additionally i encourage looking up your Senators and contacting them as well:

Subject: "Urgent: Call to Denounce Undemocratic Rhetoric and Advocate for Resignation"

Dear Senator [Senator's Name],

I am writing to express my profound disappointment and concern regarding recent comments made by Senator George Lang about the potential need for a civil war if certain political outcomes are not achieved. His statement, “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” is not only deeply irresponsible but also fundamentally undemocratic. Such rhetoric is dangerous and unbecoming of a public servant in a democratic society.

As your constituent, I am compelled to voice my strong objection to such words. They undermine the very principles upon which our nation was founded: the peaceful transition of power and the rule of law. Democracy thrives on debate, disagreement, and ultimately, the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections. The suggestion that violence is an acceptable response to losing an election is antithetical to these principles.

An apology for this grave error is simply not sufficient. The damage caused by promoting the idea of civil unrest as a solution to political disagreement cannot be undone with mere words of regret. His statement has the potential to incite division and violence, putting our nation and its citizens at risk.

In light of the seriousness of these comments, I call on you to take a stand against such rhetoric. I urge you to publicly denounce these remarks and advocate for Senator Lang's resignation from his position. The responsibilities of a United States Senator require a commitment to uphold democratic values and to lead with integrity. His recent remarks have shown a disregard for these responsibilities, and as such, stepping down is the most honorable course of action he can take for the sake of our country's stability and unity.

The United States faces numerous challenges that require thoughtful, collaborative solutions. It is imperative that our leaders prioritize dialogue and cooperation over divisive and inflammatory rhetoric. I urge you to consider the impact of these words and to take a firm stand for democracy.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response and to seeing our representatives uphold the values that make our country strong.

Sincerely,

[Your Name]

Make sure to send to both senators, regardless of their party.

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[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 4 months ago (13 children)

Guys, if you gonna do this civil war thing again, this time finish the job and make sure that those southern traitors never fuck with your country again. It's bad for my blood pressure seeing how those nazi fucks believe they have a right to exist.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For the original civil war there was actual geographic separation. Now they can only win through gerrymandering so I’m not sure how they envision the logistics of such a war playing out. Seems more like you would have to resort to what most people would call domestic terrorism.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 months ago

Seems more like you would have to resort to what most people would call domestic terrorism.

Conservatives: Hold my beer.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

I think traitors to our country need to start being ~~hung~~ hanged, publicly.

Edit: Not like curtains.

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[–] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago (4 children)

"I'm afraid if we lose this one, it's going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved."

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Bring it on, you obese, illiterate cockroaches. I want to see your oversized, maga-smeared pickup trucks rolling coal on eachother in a traffic jam for two weeks while you all complain about how Arby's won't let you use the shitter unless you buy something. You can use your airsoft holsters to hold your 84 ounce fountain drinks and twinkies.

What a bunch of fake little pussy bitches. Even the tough-guy, meat-head gym-rat conservatives will be surprised to find so many on the left are well trained and champing at the bit to solve this problem.

Please let them do something. Please, Santa? We've been good all year!

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

If the facts don't match my feelings, we should do a civil war!

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Republicans think saying "We need to stop Trump" is inciting political violence, but think this guy saying shit like this is A-Ok.

Reminder to all the MAGA morons out there: Trump's coup only got as far as it did in 2021 because he was in charge and did nothing to stop it. If Biden is the one in control of handing over the reins, you can bet your ass he'll curbstomp insurrectionists. You'd be better off staying home for this "civil war" wet dream.

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[–] snailboy@lemm.ee 30 points 4 months ago
[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

Ok then, let's organize it in a proper and civil manner, though. Everyone that wants to advocate for a civil war gets brought to the Gettysburg field in PA and they can have a "publicly" sanctioned battle to the death.

The winners get a commemorative plate, the losers get a very large memorial center with statues built in their honor in Huntsville, Alabama.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

people who couldn't handle two weeks without Applebee's in 2020 think they can handle the stress and fatigue of a prolonged war at home

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

I think there is a word for those who try and incite violence.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 26 points 4 months ago

"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth."

-- Mike Tyson

[–] Bojack411@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They have been screaming that shit ever since obama and they still haven't done shit.

[–] halfeatenpotato@lonestarlemmy.mooo.com 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I think January 6 proved that they are more willing to take extreme measures. The tension has been noticeably increasing.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The reality is the rhetoric at hand leads only to civil war or a coup if it continues. The fascists are no longer pretending to respect elections, they have multiple oligarchs funding their delusions, and they're armed and violent.

It might not be this year, but it could be. Or the next.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

The fact that he said this in a recorded public setting would preclude this asshole from ever obtaining a security clearance but yet here we are that this chucklefuck is a Senator.

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This is terrorism.

Wtf are the FBI & homeland security doing about these terrorists?

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[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Absolutely, bring it. These LARPer pussies need to learn a lesson, one they're not getting from video games, firearm manufacturers, and their imbecile Discord blabberings. So funny to think that THEY think that everyone but them is quaking in fear of their 'civil war' talk and vague threats of violence. Nobody's afraid of them at all, nobody respects them at all, and that's not going to change, period.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

He's bringing it, just wait right there. Hang on. Be there in a sec- oh goldurn it, ran out of charge.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Goddamn democrats and their violent rhetoric! Why cant we have reasonable, peaceful, level headed men like this?! /s

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 15 points 4 months ago

Every idiot that wants war never saw one.

[–] urandom@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is he going to directly participate in this "Civil war"?

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Time to resign, dickhead.

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