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[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 62 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You missed a weak point: Pilots are susceptible to damage from having a shovel firmly whacked in their faces.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Would you care to share my toasted cheese sandwich?"

SPANG

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I'm enjoying a succulent Chinese meal, Z.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 61 points 3 months ago (3 children)

There's a grate on the intakes.

They can claim they built them for radar reasons, but we know it was to keep shovels out.

Please get your act together this proposal is silly.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We move to hand spades then?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hmm. Small measuring spoons?

Advanced tactics: forgo dirt, just dump in a bin of carefully-oriented 1/4 teaspoon measures.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Use powdered milk, it gets everywhere and sticks to everything. Very hydrophilic, rust city USA

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And if you have extra, makes for a delicious drink on the way home.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Powdered whole milk in hot tea is magic! Maximum tea, minimizes dilution. I'm assuming, of course, that you are in a Challenger.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago

Seems like a perfect job for some long metal sticks. Time to bring back the javelin!

[–] superduperpirate@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Will that fit an MRE spoon?

[–] jack@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Pitchforks it is, then.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You need a missile strike first on the grate, then you can throw the shovel

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How ya gonna do that? It's stelf

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago
[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 3 points 3 months ago

I suppose that's why he's using dirt instead of the entire shovel.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean, technically ANYTHING shoveled into the air intakes ruins the engines. ;)

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you can shovel air, it's probably too thick. ;)

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Source: sci-fi short story, "A Pailful of Air".

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I did not expect to see that referenced today. It seems like pretty obscure old sci-fi to me, but I guess I found it once somehow.

I should do napkin calculations on how many blankets they'd actually need to get an airtight-ish space at breathable pressure.

Edit:

Honestly just an airlock shouldn't have been too hard, seeing as leaking atmosphere was no issue. Seal it up, crack a little valve on the side you're going towards. Every blanket scheme I can think of is just a shittier version of that.

Just as a sealant for structural gaps I imagine blankets would be impermeable with a bit of coal tar added, but maybe I can do some math for unimproved blankets.

The story actually specifies 30 blankets, on a double-check. There's science now known to be bad elsewhere, but it's all excusable considering when the story was written. Ditto for the weird gender dynamics.

[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh man I haven’t thought about that story in ages!

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

There was a fantastic radio adaptation of it in the 1950s, can't remember which show.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Nah, just really really cold.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

Depends on how much of it

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

I assume this guide is for engaging the F-117 in midair hand-to-hand combat after you've leapt aboard. But in that case, where are you supposed to get dirt? Bring it with you, like some kind of peasant?? Just use your sword like a normal ninja.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

The shovel is clearly OP it will be nerfed in the next patch.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Jeeesus, that's gold right there!

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 10 points 3 months ago

Can't believe they didn't mention dinging the air speed sensors, smh my head.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Into the intake? But that hole's no bigger than a womp rat!

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to see you use a shovel to fling dirt 40,000 ft.

[–] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Gimme a ~$112 million budget and I'll at least get it a few feet closer. No promises, though.

I can certainly promise I'll use that budget to the fullest.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Hole with nuke on the bottom, spade blocking the hole entrance

Spend the rest on booze and bbq

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Everything checks out. Pretty standard stuff, really. Shovel to air defense has been around since at least the '80s, and that's just the ones the government wants you to know about.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

How did I end up on the Warthunder forums?

[–] FermiEstimate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago

Nobody:

Absolutely nobody:

The ghost of Sam Hughes: Okay but have you considered

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

This post reminded me of the saga of tanya the evil. Her and the company of soldiers used their trench shovels to smash heads in quite a few times.