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[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Isn't this happening almost everywhere?

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 months ago

its generally happening in any country that has a reletively speaking, high GDP, because regardless of where you are in the world, the wealth tends to collect in a small group of people rather than get spread out.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

It might be the media distorting it, but it seems like it's an especially big issue in East Asian countries. I didn't know about Singapore, but I know it's a serious issue in both South Korea and Japan, which are about to have a huge number of elderly and not enough people to care for them.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

It’s ridiculously expensive to live in singapore

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

0.97 PFF! Wake me up again when they're down at 0.52 like Korea, then you might get my attention.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago

South Korea is low, but I'm sure it's not that low.

kagis

Yeah.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/09/asia/south-korea-government-population-birth-rate-intl-hnk/index.html

South Korea has the world’s lowest fertility rate, which indicates the average number of children a woman will have in her lifetime. It recorded a rate of just 0.72 in 2023

[–] Gakomi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wish it was the same ale over the world, we are too fucking many as it is!

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We are experiencing record low birthrates globally, so rejoice!

[–] Gakomi@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Doubt it, in the last 20 years we grew from 7 billion to 8. When that number goes to 4 I will be happy!

[–] megane_kun@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Both can be true, that we're experiencing record low birth rates globally and that the global population is still increasing at the moment.

How?

  1. While birth rates in many countries have fallen below replacement rate, it's still not zero, which means people are still having babies.
  2. Due to advances in health science, the death rate has fallen.

These two factors, especially decades earlier, mean that population hasn't yet fallen. However:

  1. Non-existent humans will not produce babies.
  2. The older the population is on the average, the higher the death rate will be.

This means that if I don't produce offspring, my non-existent offspring will not produce babies. The less babies are produced, the older the population would be, and the higher the death rate will be. If current trends continue, the death rate will overtake the birth rate, and the population will shrink.

Outside of a worldwide disaster that kills off people of child-bearing age, population will still rise before it levels off and then fall off as more and more people find less and less appealing to raise children. This is just a consequence of us humans not dying immediately after childbirth, and us humans as a whole making offspring at a certain age (say, 20 years old). These two factors explain the lag between childbirth figures and population growth.

[–] Gakomi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok then we talk in 50 years and if the population is still above 4 billion I still will have a problem with this!

[–] megane_kun@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you have such a problem with too many people existing, do something about it. IDK.

[–] Gakomi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I'm a nobody on the internet do I look like I got access to all the nuclear codes or something ? Simply put I can't you can't and no one can!