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[–] Roberto@toast.ooo 39 points 1 year ago

And yet here I am with a six minute video of something that I could've read in thirty seconds.

[–] phillycodehound@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't trust Zuck with anything. But the fears that he's going to take over the Fediverse are unfounded.

[–] smitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think so tbh, Google did a lot of damage to xmpp.

[–] Anders429@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This was my exact thought when I heard about what Meta was doing.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I wouldn’t underestimate it though… they will try to kill it or own it somehow.

[–] Yendor@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

He’s lobbied the US government successfully enough that TikTok (his biggest competitor) is being banned or restricted in some US states.

[–] PR_freak@vlemmy.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why is he saying he would like to see a federated approach?

With federation there is no monetization, no centralized analytics, no centralized control over content. All things meta strives for

[–] Gsus4@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What I read before is that the plan was for facebook to introduce cheap instance hosting at the expense of making it a "franchise" they can control, monetize, monitor...somewhere between a self-hosted instance and a reddit sub.

[–] PR_freak@vlemmy.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So basically the worst from reddit (controlled, monetized, monitored) and the worst of lemmy (server instance handling and costs) lmao

Good luck with that

[–] shinjiikarus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Additionally: While spez’s reasoning isn’t sound on the matter, it IS true, that user generated content is highly valuable to AI firms. With ChatGPT out the door, we shouldn’t expect anything to be written after a date a few years back to be written by a human. But this means these data sources aren’t “clear” from generating a feedback loop: If every conversation is potentially three chat bots in a trenchcoat the fourth chat bot learning from that could be of a reduced quality. Therefore every AI firm (of which Facebook is regrettably one) needs to think about how to farm user generated content. I don’t think Zuck wants to be in the cloud business of hosting instances, at least not primarily. On the one hand he is a reliable business partner for regimes all around the world and “moderating” federated instances is a way to keep this business, on the other hand this will help Facebook to gain access to user generated conversation, and more important: potentially block competitor’s access in the future.

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Very interesting take. I'm morbidly curious how a federated Internet will take shape because i know corporations will try their darndest to make it unbearable, and this seems like a pretty likely way for them to do it.

[–] a_spooky_specter@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I don't pay much attention to Zuck but listening to him talk doesn't give me confidence that this guy knows what to do next in the social media space. Meta erae has pretty much been an abject failure and Facebook feels like an old mall no one goes to anymore. Even IG seems to have lost its luster a bit.

[–] Gsus4@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, no kidding. Elon drives things into the ground for his amusement, while Zuck is 3X.

[–] devious@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I dunno, I reckon Spez could give Zuck a run for his money!

[–] MelodiousShark@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'd trust Zuck over Musk but fuck them both. I hope they beat themselves bloody in the cage match.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

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[–] Tentaclius@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Two vilains still better than one. Let them fight.