Killing surrendering soldiers is a war crime. Besides that fact, it's fucking horrifying that these people will come back from Ukraine and walk around freely, knowing that they executed tied up prisoners for shits and giggles.
this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2024
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This is mostly why we're better than they are: these things sometimes get reported, and our media criticizes these actions. There's a non-zero chance of punishing these people.
On the other side, these people are universally treated as heroes and if they're given something, it's medals or promotions.
But of course, we will need to actively work to maintain this superiority. It can vanish in an instant.
Lets see what happens... Look at assange, these fuckers who killed civilist, are as unconvicted as ever ...
We might compare Assange's treatment to how Navalny was treated. Assange is not dead and I believe he's about to be freed. And he did actual crimes whereas Navalny's crime was being a political opponent to Putin.
I don't know who or what civilist was.
Its not about assange himself, more the military guys he exposed, whom never got persecuted for their crimes even when the whole world knew what they did.
Soon after The Times began asking questions, (Ryan O’Leary, the de facto commander of Chosen Company and a former U.S. Army National Guardsman from Iowa) vowed to find out who was speaking to journalists.
“Some stuff the reporter brought up was only known by a few people,” he wrote in a group chat. “But we will cast a wide net regardless to snare the rabbit.”
It's always 'blame the whistleblower' vs realizing murder is a war crime.
Bah, I expect this will be dealth with. Especially now that there is a story about it in the news. War can turn men into monsters.
Ukraine is in a war for survival. They just let prisoners out to fight. I doubt they're going to go after a foreign volunteer battalion lead by fighters from one of their major suppliers of arms.
No they did not, they allowed convicts to join the military under very strict rules. And why not? As far as I can gather from the article the issue is certain members of the unit. And even if the American is found to be an issue, they can discuss with the US what they want. Convict or expell
Letting convicts join under very strict rules is literally letting prisoners out to fight.
And sure, they could negotiate with America on penalties. Or they could turn a blind eye because they're in a war for survival and these are volunteer units of foreigners. It would be nice if war crimes enforcement was a top priority in every war, but the United States doesn't do it when we have the universal upper hand and can easily loose a few fighters without it having any impact on our success or sovereignty.
Letting them out suggests they will be free as well but they are not. They are bound to their unit, and it is not allowed for a lot of crimes. Violent crimes, sex crimes, DUI, and crimes against state security are all excluded. The Ukranian law also for it people that have a criminal record from serving and this also changed that. So it is not a "free pass" but they no longer have to ait in a jailcel eating up state resources.
Yea because if there is one thing we know about convicted criminals its that they always follow the rules. /s
No it doesn’t. It implies exactly what the other poster said. Convicts were let out of prison to fight. What a weird hill for you to die on.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Hours after a battle in eastern Ukraine in August, a wounded and unarmed Russian soldier crawled through a nearly destroyed trench, seeking help from his captors, a unit of international volunteers led by an American.
The shooting of the unarmed, wounded Russian soldier is one of several killings that have unsettled the Chosen Company, one of the best-known units of international troops fighting on behalf of Ukraine.
In a second episode, a Chosen member lobbed a grenade at and killed a surrendering Russian soldier who had his hands raised, video footage reviewed by The Times shows.
In a third episode, Chosen members boasted in a group chat about killing Russian prisoners of war during a mission in October, text messages show.
A Greek soldier known as Zeus was at the center of all three episodes — tossing the grenade and, Mr. Grosse says, firing at the wounded Russian in the trench and bragging about another kill.
But in the United States military, a video showing the killing of a surrendering soldier, regardless of the circumstances, would prompt an immediate investigation, said Rachel E. VanLandingham, a professor at Southwestern Law School and a former U.S. Air Force lawyer.
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Please tell me this Zeus guy has been immediately removed from combat duty at the very least