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[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 100 points 4 months ago (3 children)

There won't be a ban. TikTok will probably end up making a U.S. only version that will satisfy congress.

The data will be sold to a 3rd party broker who will then keep sending it to China, so nothing will change in the end.

[–] notanaltaccount@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't think this is correct.

They wont reveal their code and leaders in the US are too uncomfortable. With a conservative court, a ban will be not found unconstitutional.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The revealed their code to a US company already: Oracle.

They just don't like that the youth use it to see what's happening in other parts of the world, like Palestine. They want to be able to keep the US populace within their propaganda bubble, in the state we were in when we didn't know about things like the Irgun or The Great March of Return.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 100 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They'll have no choice but to go into the mountains and become guerilla fighters.

[–] MxRemy@lemmy.one 52 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I'm usually all for fediverse folks shitting on big corporate social media platforms, they definitely all deserve it. But unless I'm mistaken, and I very well might be, TT seems like it gets wayyyy more vitriol than the other big bads. Hopefully that's not for "old man yells at cloud" type reasons.

Anyway, definitely looking forward to Loops when it's ready!!

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

It gets more hate because it's owned by a Chinese company that more than likely shares data with the CCP. I assume you live in a western nation, so it's basically the result of propaganda. Perhaps it's warranted, perhaps not, but that's why.

It's ironic because everyone flips out that China is vacuuming up information, as if the US government isn't doing the same thing. If you think the US govt snoops that data only to keep you safe, I have a bridge to sell you.

[–] sep@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Guess the issue is that us big bads are blocked in china. So while ccp can leverage social media to monitor western countries. Western goverments can not leverage western social media to do the same in china.

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[–] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago

I think the reason is less about "i, an individual, am getting my data harvested" (though certainly still a factor) byt more because China is still very much considered an enemy of the US, and they are not only harvesting americans data in a very invasive way - as in, recording pretty much everything you do on your phone, not just in the app - but an adversarial government now has access to all of that. Additionally, because the chinese "free market" has been effectively neutered in recent years, high chance that the CCP is able to influence TikTok's algorithm to affect what people see and push propaganda. People should be concerned about it in the same way people should be concerned about russian bot farm, but more so, because there isn't an audience of millions feeding russian bot farms their personal information.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

As a proud patriot I only want my data sold to American big business interests! πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As an Australian I could not care wjaty the CCP knows about me, happy to send them as many butthole or dick pics photos as they want.

What concerns me is the invasiness of my own national government and its asshole FiveEyes conspirators. They can take my liberty. Those bastards I trust not one inch.

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[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm much more worried about someone in my country spying on me then China, like what are they gonna do from the other side of the world?

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[–] maniel@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 months ago

I don't know why everyone stopped talking about how TT it's spyware, security researchers were out of their mind few years ago

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[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago

Oh no! Anyway...

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago

The same as what happened when vine shut down.

Take their follows as best as they can to another platform. Continue on.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Other platforms exist. I'm sure they'll be fine.

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I was under the impression that the TT creator fund was very minimal anyway. Or at least it was gutted recently and used to be somewhat okay.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

A lot of people exclusively use TT for business, via the TT store, which isn't implemented in other platforms (many of which users don't trust). They'll have a rough go of it if they don't diversify.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then those people are idiots.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I thought they mostly made money through sponsorships rather than direct payments.

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[–] z00s@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

the person who asked the question, obviously

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

YouTube shorts are already a thing.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Once they get an algorithm that isn't absolute shit, bam we'll be good

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 25 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Probably move on to YouTube Shorts or Instagram reels. I don't have Instagram but the YT Shorts are basically just TikTok crossposts anyway.

Ideally Pixelfed would win but that's very hopeful, a lot of the creators are expecting to be paid.

There's too much money to be made with the format for it to die yet.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 12 points 4 months ago (6 children)

YT Shorts are basically just TikTok crossposts anyway

Hey that's not true! Some of them a small clips from longer main videos.

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[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Better question: Will the world rejoice in having a social media network without Americans?

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[–] clot27@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago

Switch to ig reels or yt shorts

[–] FmbyMF@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Probably become nordVPN subscribers.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was going to ask this... doesn't vpn work? Is VPN being bamed too?

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I don’t know the specifics behind it, but even if VPN does work, or accessing TT through a web app instead of an app, that’s still 1-2 hurdles for the average user to jump through for their fix.

Some people will just not bother and then peace out to instagram reels or YT shorts or just drop off that kind of social media.

It fully depends on how many users are β€œsavvy” enough to navigate those hurdles and how badly they want to navigate those hurdles.

In my experience when you’re working with a dedicated user base and you make a significant change, you can expect to lose around half your audience. Barriers to entry are probably going to increase that number, but obviously this is anecdotal evidence for future events.

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Find a job?

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago

They'll move to TokTik by DanceByte by the week's end.

[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Think of all the Russian jobs spreading misinformation on Tik Tok that will be lost!

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

They’ll just move on to the next available platform.

[–] xep@fedia.io 11 points 4 months ago

Same thing that happened to the Chinese creators on Youtube despite it being banned in China, I presume.

[–] geography082@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] card797@champserver.net 6 points 4 months ago

I'm excited to find out!

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

They will cease to exist

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