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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 52 points 4 months ago (19 children)

I was excited for EVs but it looks like I'll be driving gasoline dinosaurs for the rest of my life.

[–] IDew@lemm.ee 36 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Yup. Fearing the same as well. All I'm asking for is a car, not a Windows computer.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sadly it seems our best bet would be to build it ourselves.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I'm imagining cars like Framework laptops and you can install an open source OS of your own choice to operate it.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Aptera supports Right to Repair.,

Edison Motors has preorders for their pickup truck conversion kits as well if you need something bigger.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Aptera supports Right to Repair

I like Aptera and have a couple of them pre-ordered but that's nothing but a promise. They have plans to IPO. Zero chance their consumer-friendly approach survives that for very long.

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[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Right, like if I want a tablet in my car I will just get a dash mount arm and throw whatever current gen tablet on it. I don't need it as a part of the car.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It will have to be the older gasoline dinosaurs, all the ones today spy

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[–] Onihikage@beehaw.org 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Someone is bound to start selling conversion kits for regular cars eventually - turn your 20 year old gas dinosaur into a zippy EV or hybrid, no spyware required. We can already do it with two-wheelers, and Edison Motors is well on their way to making kits to turn big trucks into hybrids.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

That actually would be pretty cool. Especially mid sized SUVs that have AWD

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

I tried this more than 15 years ago...

Besides money, batteries and a lot of effort you know why it did not work?

AUTHORITIES they would not "license" a converted car from gas to electric.

and YES the SAME AUTHORITIES that are saying now and pretend to care about environment and push all these EVs and Hybrids to "Save our Planet"

Fucking hypocrites!

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why exactly does vehicleprivacyreport want my VIN instead of year make and model? That’s me giving an unvetted third party website the unique tracking token for my car….

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lets talk about IMEIs of our phones too... Why is it illegal to change your phone IMEI?

Exactly!

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

On one hand yes, but on the other hand, doesn't it confuse the cell network? I think the IMEI is used for routing or some other similarly basic operation. Like the MAC address, but it's for a larger area and more easily can cause trouble

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Theoretically, the SIM has its own MAC that’s used for routing on the cellular network; however, the network is required to route 911 calls even without a SIM, and that’s done via IMEI.

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, there are no confusions. Changing the "id" like the MAC address or the IMEI has no impact on any system.

Its just like a new device joins a network.

For example, when a client device gets its IP from the dhcp server on a router, which allocates a random ip from a specific pool, it does not influence anything like ip packets routing...

The real issue is that it is forbiden, BECAUSE if you randomize it you do not have an unique id anymore to trace back a specific device...

Hope is more clear for you now!

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Changing the "id" like the MAC address or the IMEI has no impact on any system.

On the system none, yeah. But if you pick an IMEI that's also used by an other phone, that is what can cause trouble, as I know. It's the same as when multiple devices have the same MAC or IP address on the same network.

For example, when a client device gets its IP from the dhcp server on a router, which allocates a random ip from a specific pool, it does not influence anything like ip packets routing...

That's because it is not random. The DHCP server keeps track of the addresses it has assigned to someone, and will never tell the next new client to use an IP it has already assigned someone.
But if you set your IP statically and pick an IP that is used, or if you run multiple DHCP severs for the same network without coordination, then problems will come.

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yes you are correct!

But in our discussion it was implied/assumed a random UNIQUE IMEI or MAC address.

For example most of people have a pile of unused older phones which are NOT IN USE and you could use thoses IMEIs without issues.

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[–] drwho@beehaw.org 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hardware in cars, like hardware in computers drifts in configuration over manufacturing time. Some cars from a manufacturer might have some granularity of tracking that earlier units off the line didn't. Toyota does this with their Camry hybrids, for example.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The model year and other relevant info is found in the first part of the VIN. There's no legit reason for it to demand the whole thing, which it does.

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago

I did not know that. Thanks.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Do not use Odysee. It is run by Nazis and I don't mean Nazi by Lemmy standards I mean Nazi as in hating Jews. Half the comments people calling you a Jew in a derogatory sense. It is a safe haven for people who actively target anyone that is not white and strict southern Christian.

[–] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You are correct, and thankfully peertube exists and is currently not full of nazis (at least from the instances I've checked). Their federation model seems to be opt in instead of opt out though, so it's hard to actually find content, unfortunately.

The most populated instance I've found is https://tilvids.com/, which has a bunch of educational and tech videos.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

oh wow, yeah. This stuff doesn't look well for the people running that site.

https://odysee.com/@WorldTruthSeekers:6/JewishProblem:1

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

I comment all the time there and read comments all the time. I never see any commenters attacked for being Jews ever. Look, that's not to say that Jew haters aren't on the platform, and I find it very annoying that they seem to be brigading the platform in the comment space, but the place certainly ain't run by Nazi's. It's just unfortunate that people like that have to ruin the reputation of the platform and turn people off from it. The comments seem far less moderated than the videos of the platform, because remember that moderation on the Odysee front-end does exist. I'm mostly saying this for the reader, since you probably already know this, but here is one example from the community guidelines:

We don’t care about what you publish, livestream, comment, or include in channel descriptions for the most part. But we don’t allow the following: Content or posts that incite hatred or violence towards a particular group or person(s) based on, but not limited to the following: Ethnicity Disability Nationality Race Gender Religion Sexual orientation Social class/caste Gender identity/expression

So you certainly can't argue that Odysee allows this content on the platform. I've only once (one time too many, though!) seen someone actually directly promote violence. I slimed it (disliked), reported it, and told other people to do the same (sliming it enough hides the comment like a spoiler), and the other viewers did so. That's the first time I've ever done that, but if you saw what he was promoting, you would probably think he should go to a mental ward. Thankfully, people did slime it, and it became hidden, before eventually being removed by the site moderators.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of course they lied about it. I don't know how anybody could have believed them in the first place.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because the general population doesn't know much about data privacy and they are purposefully mislead and inticed into accepting agreements that share all that information out. The point of NBTV is to raise awareness.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They’re fed propaganda to believe that privacy doesn’t matter….

But just imagine a Google admin had access to all the information about you and wanted to blackmail you into doing something…. The sheer power of that is terrifying.

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[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Bikes are great. Just saying.

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Until you have to travel over 40 miles in any direction.

[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I live car-free, and I travel over 40 miles every now and then.

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Well done mate!

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

40?

You're in better shape than I am.

[–] GbyBE@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Probably because he rides a bike

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

And only some e-bikes have a built-in cell phone.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You don't have a disability. Just saying.

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

there are also many disabilities that prevents one from driving. Meanwhile infrastructure that is safe for bikes would also be safe for mobility devices travel

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago
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