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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 191 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hootz@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yea but PS3 can Linux, the ultimate game.

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[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 186 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

IP hoarding.

  1. Buy studio that already made successful game

  2. Delete studio

  3. People still buy game

  4. Profit

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 99 points 5 months ago
  1. Massive tax write-off because of the studio's "failure"
[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 125 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Eliminating the competition

When there are no other games at all, the company with one shitty live service game will be king!

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 69 points 5 months ago

It's also a tried and true strategy that brought Microsoft to the spot it is now. Evil and corrupt, but very effective. Only eee (embrace, extend, extinguish) is even more insidious because it requires companies to play the long con.

Then again in 2024, I automatically assume "con" first until I see evidence to the contrary.

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[–] Skepticpunk@lemmy.world 88 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Embrace, Expend, Extinguish.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's Extend. Embrace, Extend, Extinguish

[–] osbo9991@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

I mean, technically, "expend" is exactly what Microsoft is doing in this situation

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 19 points 5 months ago

Explore, Expand, Exploit and Exterminate.

Learn the terminology, Nate.

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think MS doing any expand related with games

[–] Skepticpunk@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

That's why I said "expend" rather than "expand".

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 72 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's called "monopolize gaming without paying for developers". The beauty of it is, if you ruin all of modern gaming and buy out all the existing hits, you can shove in monetization and project insane profits

At least until indie gaming takes over, your stock price will go to the moon

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

until indie gaming takes over

People want to play what's popular, to feel part of a group.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

And there's thankfully usually a popular indie darling of the season to do that. Valheim, Vampire Survivors, Lethal Company, Among Us, Dave the Diver, etc. etc.

Something unique that can be easily streamed in most cases.

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 68 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fucking the video game industry is what it's called

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

It just works

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 53 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Its okay because the PS5 also has no games

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is why the Switch is superior.

It has bad games 😎

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

steam deck is the supperior, plays every xbox game, emulate Switch and play PS games

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[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Odyssey, Zelda, portable Dark Souls.

[–] Toes@ani.social 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 months ago

Strong disagree but I respect your opinion

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[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

It has bad games 😎

What not playing ARMS does to a mf

[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Played Horizon Forbidden West on PC and it's such a grind fest. What's even the point. Not sure why it gets such good reviews, except for how pretty it is. High hopes for God of War Ragnarok, though.

[–] summerof69@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

It gets good reviews because it's fun to play. The game is good at its core: you have to scan machines, aim at weak spots, move a lot in the battle to avoid damage, choose right weapons, or you can override a machine and enjoy the show, there are so many options and challenges. Besides, let's not underestimate the value of good graphics. They make the world nicer, more enjoyable, make you want to come back and play again. I understand that this game is not for everyone though.

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[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Everyone seems to think there is some master evil plan behind all this, but I think there's a simpler explanation. They fucked up.

[–] sickhack@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Microsoft made $158b gross profit year, which was a 14% increase over the previous year.

As a comparison, General Motors’ revenue was $170b. Microsoft made almost as much in profit as GM took in totality.

Closing the studios maybe will save Microsoft $0.1b, so potentially increase their profit line by 0.05%.

So hard to think of it as anything other than a middle finger to the devs. Even if it were a mistake, they could afford to let it cook longer like with Rare and redeem the “mistake”.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's stripping out the copper wiring for cash. Buy a game studio, fire all the employees. Now their paychecks can be served up as profit to shareholders. Move all the files to your servers, it's your "Intellectual Property". Sell off the computers and the desks and anything else not nailed down. Do they own the building? Great, sell that too! Or, better yet, rent it out!

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Only works if the liquidated assets are worth more than the money spent acquiring them, which usually is not the case.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

The liquidated assets are just a cherry on top, what they're going for is getting rid of the competition and hoarding IP for usual capitalist hoarder mentality reasons.

[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The reasons you'd ever want an Xbox used to be Halo and Fable. Now it's, uh, I dunno, does anyone care about Starfield?

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Gamepass is great. It's nice to sit down on the couch and boot up a random game via streaming. Reminds me of Blockbuster in a sense.

You can do the same thing on PC, but Xbox is idiot-proof and at the end of the day I just don't have the energy to deal with anything more difficult than that.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Now the reason is that you're too broke for a PC but still wanna play new games that are on PC, but not dirty Nintendo or Playstation games.

[–] agegamon@beehaw.org 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"Too broke to play PC" is a vanishing argument IMO. People have been saying that forever, to be fair, but given how bad Xbox and Playstation have gotten I don't anyone who's actually into gaming purchasing a new one today. Maybe used, that might make sense if it was really cheap.

A budget gaming PC can check out at slightly over 600 now. PcPartPicker has two recommended builds priced right at 600, though honestly there might be even cheaper ways to arrive at that level of perfromance. Compared to 300-400 for the less garbage Xbox, and there's not much argument to lock someone into the xbox's ecosystem vs something you can upgrade for much less.

Now I think it's a different matter if it's a hand-me-down or given for free. There's no reason not to do that.

I gave my last console away and got a friend of mine into gaming, then helped them build a decent PC when they actually wanted something new.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Its called being a fucking dumb cunt. These executives and shareholders don't understand what brought people to the Xbox. So there's no way in hell they can ever keep people there. If they wanted to keep the Xbox in the spotlight you should have kept Lionhead alive and not let 343 fuck Halo (which is now on PC anyway so why would I get an Xbox?). There's simply no reason to have one unless you're scared of PCs and want to play some games with your PC friends.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They are buying studios and their IP so no one else can use it, even if they don't use it themselves. It's a strategy to remove competition, they don't care about the industry and the players, they care about money. All these big companies are the same, Microsoft just have the wallet to act on it, avoid them all and buy indie games.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This strategy eventually transforms a company into an ouroboros. Consuming itself until the shareholders and c suites have all claimed their parachutes. Its total self destruction in the long term.

[–] vanderbilt@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ding-ding. It so long as the shareholders of today get their gains, they could care less. The Ford lawsuit absolutely destroyed free enterprise in this country.

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[–] Juice64@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft made 14% more profit than the year before. So... Is it really?

The only thing worse than this tactic, is that this tactic is working.

[–] Koarnine@pawb.social 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

Microsoft, fair point

[–] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] cirdanlunae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 months ago

"You know what they should copy? They should copy how to get good games"

-Chad Warden

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Enshittification

i think this might be called "no games"

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