Where's the fighting?
this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2023
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I'm guessing they were referring to the defederation issues that came up.
Yeah mostly this. Also there seems to be some friction between the old guard and the Fledditors.
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No you shut up!
I’m wondering the same
There isn't any, some people like to create drama where none exists
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You taking to me? Or chewing a brick???
'Coz you gonna lose your teeth eitherway.
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That's why I like this place. Feels very old school somehow. And it's an actual protocol, like back before everything was the same handful of companies running everything with their own BS software.
It really does feel a lot like the old forums are back, but now they can talk to each other. This should have happened a decade ago!
To me it feels pretty much like reddit so far. Maybe I've just gotten very good at ignoring reddit's corporate bullshit though.
At least every third post isn’t a flagrant ad poorly hidden as “this cool thing I discovered, you might find it cool too!”
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Not sure where you’re hanging out that you’re seeing infighting.
Also, I’ve been living in the Internet you describe since 1990. All it takes is intentionally saying no to the corporate offerings; there have been self-hosted and crowd-hosted communities the entire time.
Every once in a while I miss Fidonet though.
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This place is fantastic. I'm still working on convincing my husband that it's going to take the place of Reddit but I'll wear him down. He thinks because a lot of the posts only have a few comments and 20 or so up votes, it's not a valid community. I think it's just getting started and it's exciting to be here early.
I'm really enjoying the relative lack of content and what feels like an absence of astroturfing or bot content and votes. Way less dillholes and the interactions I see are generally meaningful and kind. I'm slowly building my subscription list of communities and can check in on top posts for the day in the morning and evening. I really felt a compulsion to read most of the posts for the day on my few favorite subreddits (mostly picture based so lots of cool shit to look at and get inspired by). I have those communities set up in an RSS feed for when I'm looking to scroll through stuff.
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Any community is a valid community, if there's 20 upvotes that's still 20 people who saw, enjoyed, and gave it some time, and that matters on the modern internet where there's a bit more gatekeeping than usual!
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In-fighting? What did i miss? lmao
Ill kill you
let's commit war crimes
The Meta bullshit. I get it, Meta bad mmkay, but it's been on my front page every time I've come here for the past few days. We really can stop now...
Easy enough to just drop a down vote on the discussion, right?
The software is a little clunky but this is everything I dreamed of when I got half way through making a peer-to-peer reddit clone in 2015 and gave up lol
It's nice isn't it? I feel like if we'll evolve quickly
I’m all in for this ride! 🙌
Methinks you have been so busy trying to fight that you didn't realise that nobody else is fighting.
However, there's a slight issue with 'still being connected to the wider internet' as I don't see results for Lemmy content appearing in my searches the way Reddit content comes up.
So it feels rather like a sci-fi movie when you've had too many mushrooms - kind of bright, but a bit confused...
However, it does help focus that idea that - if we are going to have interesting discussions and create information which is archived - it shouldn't be inside Reddit, and it should be accessible by search.
So Lemmy is half way there...
The search engines are increasingly becoming enshitified anyway. I no longer think being found on Google is going to be the hallmark of success long term it was purported to be. We need a new search paradigm. And I don't just mean reinventing search engines. I mean new ways of organizing content and answering search queries. Or better funding models for indexed search.
I think you could really plot the decline in usability of Google search over the last 10 years. SEO and algorithms have really ruined the user experience.
You know what? I agree. Even over the last few months, I've seen it in action.
Before the blackout stuff began, I used to have to manually include the word "reddit" for reddit to even show up for most of my queries. Now, I can barely google anything without reddit showing up right near the top of the results.
Shenanigans, I tell ya.
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The fact that everything is just "working" feels great!
Apps like Jerboa have made it so seemless to transition from deaddit.
Looking forward to the upcoming features that make the communities easier to join for the layperson.
Cheers!
I'm honestly really impressed by the fact that it is just working.
In les than a month Lemmy saw an exponential growth and from my point of view it was always very smooth. It was a bit slow from time to time but knowing that all of that is just running on a bunch of servers puts together by few passionate relying on donations or just their personal resources.
Feels almost like going back in time, to the earlier days of the net. IRC, XMPP, Usenet… all distributed.
Usenet is distributed. If you don’t mirror bins it’s not impossible to run your own “federated” server.
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We are forming communities on the realized image of the internet that we were told we would have back in the 80s and 90s.
Exactly! Back in the 80s, tech enthusiasts would run their own dial-up message boards in their homes. The Fediverse is like that, but with all the benefits of modern technology. Anyone can run their own instance if they have a decent internet connection (usually fiber). But it is more than just message boards: they can run Lemmy, Mastodon, Wordpress, and even things like Tor and NextCloud, and instantly contribute their computing resources to the larger Fediverse community.
@Ramin_HAL9001 @crazyminner
To add to that, it became dirt cheap to get hosting. Like under a pack of cigarettes per month cheap.
Did a little analysis over on my blog going over the shoestring methods for those interested: https://blog.lionscade.de/show/7
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I agree.
BUT some degree of infighting means we're alive and engaged with the platform. I think it's healthy infighting.
Exactly. No human community exists without infighting. Infighting is not a good thing, but it is a good sign -- a sign of growth.
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No wait! I've just moved in! I missed all the fight!
I mean... can't you just do a little??? 🥺
Just wait a few days till some people overreact to something and call for defederating an entire instance due to it
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It's only infighting because we're all members of a living community. Other wise it's just fighting
It has been quite emotional to see this community grow! I was a lurker here when Lemmy only had hundreds of users and to see such a vibrant and diverse set of instances form has been wonderful! I hope to see this platform returning some of the nostalgia from the Golden Age of the Internet. An internet for fun!
Great change is coming enjoy these early amazing days!
I definitely prefer it here over Reddit. It feels more free here.
Them sounds like fighting words! Put up your jibblies!
I keep telling my wife how awesome the Fediverse is. She doesn't share the same sentiment I do, but she also doesn't care about Reddit. I'll win her over one day.
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