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[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (4 children)

That's a good thing; Iran is evil in case you forgot

[–] skillissuer@sh.itjust.works 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

hostile reminder that government != people of a given country

there is some opposition, not much, and you won't hear from them a lot because communications out of the country are tightly controlled and iranian security apparatus is on the more hostile end of scale, but there is something. iranian emigrants tend to be pretty liberal

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

I've worked with a few Iranians during college and grad school and they were all awesome people. I just with the government if their home country wasn't evil and create the need for them to escape

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Ah you mean the Iran that was doing perfectly well and was a beacon of progressiveness until the United States overthrew their democratically elected government in the 50s?

[–] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It is not the argument if they were evil before the US intervened

You can not change the past and currently they are a oppresive religious dictatorship

[–] verity_kindle@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The Shah had his secret police making people disappear and using torture. He was not a beacon of anything.

[–] skillissuer@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Shah was a piece of shit, but i'm pretty sure lotrorc is about removal of prime minister Mossadegh from power. That definitely didn't make things better

[–] skillissuer@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

and by the way, i'm of opinion that it's one of several times in history when rabid mccarthyism of CIA came around to bite them in their ass later, because if shah's CIA handlers weren't laser-focused on destruction of Tudeh party, then Khomeini would have to compete with them for audience and islamic revolution might have never happened. but it's a talk for another day

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

I don't think they are talking about the Islamic revolution of the 70s. I believe they are referring to the coup of the Prime Minister in 53'.

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

The 50s were not the same time period as the Islamic revolution

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Ahhh, yes, let's dig up events from 70 years ago as justification for their current behavior!

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

You don't think that the US putting in an extremist faction that has run the country since has anything to do with them being extremist now?

And funnily enough they've shown more restraint than Israel this entire time

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm with you on that.

The US' support for Israel is disgusting but...this is not an example of it. Can't even imagine what would follow if all their bombs landed but I know it wouldn't be good for the world even if Israel deserves it.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Israel deserves innocent civilians to be killed?

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago

The attacks were aimed at military targets, at least by what I last read

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Obviously I'm not talking about the civilians. Israel bombed Iran first...they "deserved" retaliation.

[–] verity_kindle@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

This meme transcends races. There are many Black Israelite political groups in the US and they don't like Israel, either, in fact, they want to move in on/annex territory from whoever lives there, because they think they're the true inheritors. It will never be sorted out for anyone, so let's meme instead. Detente through superior visual jokes.