TranscendentalEmpire

Yeap, I work in prosthetics and have to explain to "futurologist" on the internet that we're never going to see advanced prosthetics that are as functional as your original limbs partly for this reason.

Proprioception is important y'all!

No? What did I say that made you think I'm a trump supporter? I'm criticizing folks for celebrating harm coming to their fellow Americans.

Mostly it's the regurgitation of radical propaganda.......

No? I'm honestly not sure I understand your question about the civil war.

The civil war parallel was made because you are parroting propaganda that's been endemic in the South for the last 150 years. That the war wasn't about slavery, that the North just hated rural people's culture.

The parallel throws me off because the point I'm making is Dems are maybe not "just as racist" as Rs but the fact they're proving latinos were seen as pawns to be used when the Dems platform was basically everything Rs wanted while Trump was in office (minus family separations.

Ahh yes, because a minority of of internet strangers have some bad takes, the two parties are basically the same.........except for the little caveat of family separation and interment camps thing, and even though Trump's main campaign promise was to immediately deport everyone he can.....

There's certainly parallels to the civil war, the Northerners absolutely did not like it when free black American citizens first started to move there when fleeing terrorism I'm the South.

And how is that a parallel to modern times? Pretty sure there were sanctuary cities all over during Trump's first presidency.

That's how we got red-lining and the modern for-profit prison system.

You're talking about two separate times in history separated by a hundred years of lived history. After the civil war, before conservatives torpedos reconstruction, black Americans actually gained a lot of economic and political power. Redlining and the modern prison system were a reactionary response by conservatives to desegregation.

I am absolutely not doing what you're saying. Let me know how I came off that way. I'm trying to be as specific as possible here. People that are celebrating bad things happening to their fellow Americans. Stop. That's it. That is gross, to me.

You just so happen to be parroting several different pieces of propaganda used to falsely equivocate the both sides argument popular among accelerationists and radical conservatives...Interesting.

Our people didn't vote. Because of that we celebrate latinos being deported?

Who is our people?

Wish this could be a light conversation. This is truly not that serious. It's a chat on fuckin lemmy (imagine this place is huge one day. lol)

I wish we could just have a light conversation about the fascist said the German to the Jews......

It's almost like even tangentially supporting fascism isnt a light hearted conversation?

Yeap, I'm a product of an interracial marriage who is currently in an interracial marriage with someone who is openly bisexual, in the reddest state in America. I'm probably going to be pulling the rifles out of the attic for a good cleaning this weekend.

Yeah, who would have guessed that modernity was invented by someone who stuck magnets to a fidget spinner and strapped it to a boiler.

I haven't read this book, but I'm pretty skeptical of how they define nonviolent resistance and what makes a revolution "successful"

The Iranian Revolution, 1977–1979

5. The First Palestinian Intifada, 1987–1992
6. The Philippine People Power Movement, 1983–1986
7. Why Civil Resistance Sometimes Fails: The Burmese Uprising, 1988–1990 Case Study Summary

Are the revolutions they are principally utilizing, and that makes me think this book isn't exactly the most academically honest study around.

The Iranian revolution had battles in the streets and plenty of deadly clashes with the Shahs regime. It also led the the largest political massacre in the country's history.

The Philippine People Power Movement

The yellow revolution funded militant groups, featured a helicopter attack on the president's compound, and only didn't devolve into a massacre of civilians because a marine commander refused to participate in the wholesale slaughter of tens of thousands of people.

The First Palestinian Intifada

Led to the deaths of over a thousand civilians and is a precursor the the genocide we are currently witnessing.

The Burmese Uprising

Started fairly similar to the Philippine uprising, except their military commanders were perfectly fine massacring civilians, with a death toll of 3k-10k people....

I am willing to give this a read, but I would also suggest other people read "Setting Sites" by Scott Crow as a counterpoint.

That's an incredibly reductionist and ahistorical explanation of how the Nazis overthrew the Weimar Republic.....

Not to mention incredibly dismissive to the thousands of people who were literally battling brown shirts in the streets of Berlin leading up to the burning of the reichstag .

The Nazi didn't rise to power because people had a defeatist attitude, it's because the Nazi murdered their opposition, were perfectly fine with intimidating voters, and were backed by corporations and a significant portion of the population who blamed socialism for the economic slump of postwar Germany.

If you truly believe this, I highly suggest reading "The Death of Democracy" by Benjamin Hett. Phone calls aren't going to sway the opinions of someone who fundamentally doesn't think you should be alive.

Show your true colors y'all! Finally, you can stop pretending you truly care about struggling Americans that don't share the same values as you

By values, you mean supporting a violent and openly fascist political party whose main goal is to hunt migrants to deport?

Hopefully we can at least admit rural folks are absolutely correct in feeling like we hate them.

Lol, is that the same logic you apply to the civil war? The North just hated the South for their rural ways?

I wouldn't agree with what the person you are responding to says, because I don't think anyone deserves not be ripped from their homes. But I can understand why people would wish unpleasant times to people who voted to do exactly that.

Falsely equivocating all of that down to, "hating rural folks" for their country ways is inaccurate, ahistorical, and highly reductive.

I don't understand what you're saying. I'm trying to do the exact opposite of celebrating anyone's misfortune. That's kinda gross, to me

Oh please, the specific criticism you brought up unprovoked has been repeated nearly exclusively by leftist accelerationists who are too busy virtue signaling to even bother to participate with electorial harm reduction.

Understanding that people regularly vote against their own interest and then gleefully celebrate them doing so........ You are also sounding real fucking evil bud.

Tbf I did say it was passed after being modified to hell by special interest.

My dude..... The inflation reduction act is an amended version of the build back better deal. What are you talking about?

On July 27, Manchin and Schumer announced the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022, the final result of these negotiations, surprising other congressional Democrats.[192] The bill, which includes provisions on tax, health care, and climate and energy spending, was introduced in the Senate as an amendment to the Build Back Better Act. On August 7, the Senate passed the bill on a 50–50 vote with Vice President Harris breaking the tie.[193] On August 12, 2022, the House passed the bill on a 220–207 vote.[194] President Biden signed it into law on August 16.[195]

Funny when it was the more neoliberal, pro-business dems that shot it down, shortly before leaving the democratic party.

Shot it down? The bill passed in 2022 after being modified to hell by special interest.

There's really not a whole lot of corporate profits to be found in here, though

If it's not going to be implemented directly by the state it means that it's going to be implemented by private businesses. Those private business owners are going to walk away with the lion's share of any money they accept from the government.

It actually raised corporate taxes, which is not a neoliberal policy position:

It's almost like corporations aren't a monolith of mutual aid and support. You don't think Raytheon wouldn't support raising some taxes if it meant they could funnel a ton of government funding towards the privatized military industrial sector?