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[–] OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 227 points 11 months ago (31 children)

Yeah but Brave? Why not Firefox or Vivaldi.

[–] Norgur@fedia.io 153 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Forgive them. They aren't used to choosing their browser yet.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 37 points 11 months ago (4 children)

They're Apple users. They aren't used to making any decisions when it comes to how their phones work

[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I’d defend myself, but I work in digital marketing so I’m not going to dissuade anyone from using AdWords.. I mean Android.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 71 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well the Brave Twitter account is likely a bit biased toward the Brave browser. 🙂

I'm sure the others were impacted too.

Edit: Firefox installs jumped 50%.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/13/24100066/firefox-saw-an-increase-in-users-following-apples-default-browser-changes-in-the-eu

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Vivaldi is a proprietary rebranding of Chromium. Can't say I'd recommend it over (or in addition to) Firefox.

We need less forks of Chromium. Any one company (Google in this case) having total control over browser engines is dangerous, and is a big reason why the whole Apple/Safari/Webkit situation is such a big deal to begin with.

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Remember kids, if it's Chromium based, it's still part of the problem. The Chromium project only exists to provide the illusion of choice. Don't let Google have the power to dictate web standards at will.

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Vivaldi is my go to browser. Brave does a better job with blocking ads. I'm switching to Brave whenever I need to stream something on a site loaded with ads, or when YouTube manages to detect my Adblock for a few days.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not like uBlock Origin is a thing?
Can it really get better than that and consent-o-matic?

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[–] turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

Still better than Edge or Chrome

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[–] prograhammingdev@lemmy.prograhamming.com 97 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Chart is a little misleading starting at 7% instead of zero, but still a nice surge nevertheless.

[–] FatCat@lemmy.world 120 points 11 months ago (1 children)

True. Other people asked so they posted another one.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (5 children)

IMO, this makes it look even worse.

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 11 months ago

That's why they started with the one they did

[–] Pirky@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Even then, this is still a solid 30-40% increase in downloads. That's statistically significant right there.

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[–] matticusrex@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is that 7% or 7,000 installs total? The axis isn’t labeled!!

[–] Pirky@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

I see a k following the numbers, so I'm assuming that's total number of downloads.

[–] matticusrex@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Article states installs per day

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 11 months ago (23 children)

For god sakes don’t use Brave. Brave has been caught doing shady shit in the past, and the CEO is a piece of shit on top of that.

Use Firefox with privacy addons.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
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[–] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 65 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Brave would definitely not be my choice 😂

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 11 months ago

That is fine, as long as people have a choice.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Certainly, but it's probably happening for all browsers on iOS right now.

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago (8 children)

That graph is trash. The baseline needs to be at zero.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

That graph hurts my data scientist heart

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[–] just_change_it@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean sure I guess... but brave as a browser is atrocious. I don't trust their bullshit at all.

After all who doesn't want a crypto wallet in their browser? that's the safest place for it right?

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[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

I've been using Firefox on my android phones for years though, I don't remember it ever being more involved then setting it as default on the popup on first launch.

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 41 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Android is a fenced garden compared to the fortress that is iOS.

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[–] banghida@lemm.ee 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They are probably just trying to pump their token with these posts.

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[–] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

The axis is somewhat misleading. A jump from 8k to 11k installs is nothing.

Edit: just saw from the comments this is the number of installs per day so its bigger than I thought

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A jump from 8k to 11k installs is nothing.

It's about a third. Imagine if your income went up by 30% in 24 hours, I reckon you'd be pretty happy about that.

Also - it tends to take months for a new version of iOS to reach a large number of users, and years to reach everyone. So a rapid growth rate (probably not 30%, but still fast) is likely to be sustained over quite a while.

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[–] WolfLink@lemmy.ml 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Misleading graph trying to make a 150% increase look like a 1000% increase.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

that's a ~40% increase looking like a 300% increase

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Read the left side? 7k-11k, the removed useless information, provided you read what is actually there first.

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[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

That doesn't surprise me, and yes it was always because of anti-competitive practices, so I'm all for more neutrality, I'll just add 2 shower thoughts:

  1. Seeing that Brave is at the top of the browser list, I wonder how many selected Brave just because it's at the top of the list and thought that this must be a good choice then, not because they actually like Brave.
  2. It's nice to have such a thing for browsers, but it would have to be expanded to other apps as well, e.g. mail client. Oh well, maybe in another 10 years or so.
[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That graph looks exaggerated but this is over a few days which is crazy

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It is misleading. In a reputable graph, your y axis would start at zero

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[–] lanolinoil@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Hurry USA! Better find some smallish company to sue for anti trust instead of working on any real issues like this

[–] ___@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

I used to use brave before they were soured. Ther BAT token disappearing from my account was another nail in the coffin.

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