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For anyone wondering if Threads and Facebook at large will be a fine neighbor in the space and compatible with other apps/services in the fediverse: they’re already automatically hiding comments that mention Pixelfed https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112126250737482807

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 300 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Repeat after me: I will not federate with any Meta products.

[–] DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works 111 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I will not federate with any meta products.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I will not federate with any meta products.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I will not federate with any meta products.

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Serious question: how do we - the end users - stop federating with Meta?

[–] chrisbit@leminal.space 98 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Move to an instance that won't.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 65 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Migrate away from instances that embrace Meta to those that do not. Choose an instance that aligns with you.

Or in the extreme case, if you're the first who can't find such an instance and you're technically inclined, there's your room for a new instance. It's how the fediverse works and partly why Meta is so intent on destroying it.

[–] bonobi@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

How does one find a list of instances that aren't federated with meta?

[–] cyber_admin@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Replied in another comment, but here is is again. https://fedipact.veganism.social/

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[–] Minotaur@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m kind of stupid and more here just because it tends to be better discussion than Reddit: what does “federate with” mean in this context??

Thanks!

[–] zak@social.goodanser.com 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (20 children)

@Minotaur @henfredemars @technology You are using an account on lemm.ee to reply to someone commenting from an account on infosec.pub in a community hosted on lemmy.world.

Those are all running Lemmy software, but I am replying from an account on social.goodanser.com, which is running Mastodon software.

That's federation. We're all using different service providers, sometimes even different software, but we can talk to each other because they speak the same protocol, called ActivityPub. Threads.net has announced plans to support ActivityPub and conducted some limited trials, which they're in the process of expanding. They claim they intend to support it fully, but only for users who opt in to it.

Servers can block, or "defederate from" other servers, and many have chosen to preemptively defederate from Threads.

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 209 points 6 months ago (7 children)

mEtA wOnT dEsTrOy ThE fEdIvErSe. wE sHoUlD lEt tHrEaDs In

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 38 points 6 months ago

Let's just give them a chance guys. They haven't done anything bad yet. It will help the fediverse grow. We need their content

wE cAn AlwAyS dEfeDeraTe lAtEr. It dEfinIteLy WoN'T bE tOo LaTe tHeN

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 151 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I was one of those people that said “let’s see if they will be acceptable neighbors” and well, it seems we have an answer.

If it’s true then I now favor defederation.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I mean who could've seen something like this coming?

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 40 points 6 months ago

After so many positive experiences with the charming and wholesome company Meta, now this completely out of the blue...

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 36 points 6 months ago

It’s not just true, there’s a history of this mentioned in the replies to the original masto comment. Pixelfed is a direct competitor/alternative to instagram and meta’s has a pretty clear policy of not giving it any airtime on their platforms.

Why, well they dominate the instagram style platform space (and I’d guess it’s their biggest platform ATM and most prospective going forward). Twitter-style platforms are new for them and introduce monopoly issues … so they toy with the fediverse to allay potential issues.

I think all of the schmoozing the likes of Evan, Gargron etc are doing with meta (they have active accounts on Threads AFAIU, for instance) will reveal their true colours (techbro growth mindset just the hipster way) and leave them with egg on their face.

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[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 99 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have to post this again sorry

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I remember you from the Reddit post!

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[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 88 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But surely meta has good intentions and we should totally trust them guys!!1!

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.social 47 points 6 months ago

Why is everyone so opposed to ~~cancer~~ Threads coming to the Fediverse?

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It'd be a damn shame if everyone started putting pixelfed at the end of every message to both deny threads content and create a Streisand effect.

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[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I wish I could go back to a Lemmy thread showing how Mastodon and other Fediverse instances were blocking Meta ahead of it's integration, where people went "Oh you're just being paranoid, why would they do that?" And when given examples of companies taking open standards and either making themselves the biggest source of users or killing it (Microsoft, Google, Apple) they either went "Well that happened in 2006, it's 2023!"

I know the bootlickers wouldn't actually change their mind, but jesus christ. It's frustrating for groups of advocates to be ignored and proven right each time. Cassandra syndrome is real.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I just..

I just do not get the twitter framework for social media. Like I appreciate you mastodon bros, but what the hell is actually going on over there. I had the same issue with twitter. What the hell even is this?

[–] ggwithgg@feddit.nl 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

It's an convenient way to post about some trending topic, without creating a whole new community for something temporary. For example the eurovision sing festival, or some natural disaster that happened.

And on the other hand, it works for expressing some personal thoughts or memes without having to adhere to a specific topic. But with random strangers instead of only your facebook friends.

I think for these kind of needs, no other social media framework would comply better.

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[–] Moderator@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I never really got the Twitter model either. Following a specific individual is a weird one for me; I’d rather follow an idea or a topic instead (Reddit/lemmy/forums). I honestly don’t care enough about any individual user to the point where I want to know what they have to say about… anything, really.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 45 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If I am not mistaken, it's an open source Instagram alternative.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ah I see. I am now suitably enraged.

(/s I hate Meta vehemently of course)

[–] Gnugit@aussie.zone 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I didn't know either so I looked it up for you.

https://pixelfed.org/

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[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 38 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pixelfed pixelfed pixelfed

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 33 points 6 months ago (5 children)

What's the point of planning to integrate with activitypub if they do shit like this?

[–] 520@kbin.social 57 points 6 months ago

Stage 1 of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

To overrule it

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[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 29 points 6 months ago

Im SOOOO surprised. /s

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I pray to God (or whoever I have to) that the .world admins rethink their federation decision.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 31 points 6 months ago

Stop praying and just move to an instance that defederates with Threads. It's really not hard.

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[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 21 points 6 months ago

they're so scared of us you can't even talk about us on their shitty platforms. that should tell you a lot

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The only thing that saved Meta/Web3 from creating a special hell where digital rent seeking pervades all social interaction is that capitalism is too advanced at this point to create a market before trying to squeeze every last drop of blood out of it.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We've reached the phase where all new enterprise services come pre-enshittified

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[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

Behold unfettered capitalism in all its glory.

"We only stay successful if we hide evidence of alternatives"

[–] Canyon201@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

is lemmy.world federated with threads?

[–] cyber_admin@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (12 children)
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