Science Fiction

lmao is this post advertising something made by Dave and Dave? hard pass......... especially if the motherfuckers are getting high praise in the press for an unfinished story. call me when you release the final finale and the general public receives it well

they do perfectly fine when they are adapting existing material. it's when you ask them to write their own story that they can't handle it. the first four seasons of Game of Thrones were fucking exceptional. I have no idea how you turn this book into a movie though

It's based on book one of a trilogy.

Well, if they just stick to adapting the books (and to my knowledge the story is finished) I'm OK with it. With GoT the problem was mostly when the source material was over, till then they did a good job adapting the story.

Oh those fuck boys are involved? Hard pass

Minor spoilers ahead.

I have no clue what this show will be like.

I read the trilogy and I'm not really sure that it will translate to the screen very well. The story is absolutely massive and spans from beginning in the Chinese cultural revolution and ends at the literal end of time.

That being said, it is probably my favorite and what I consider the best sci-fi trilogy out there.

Incredibly interesting concepts are explored and it also has a really interesting way of telling the story. It's not just about one guy saving the whole universe. It catalogs all of civilization's attempts at coming together and protecting humanity from an alien threat. And it also goes into all of the issues that humanity runs into while trying to work together, while also spanning across thousands of years.

It's a really fantastic series and I would highly recommend it to just about anyone with an intellectual interest in humanity's future.

It's a big statement to say, but this book changed my outlook on humanity and globalism.

Just pirate it. And if you are paying for Netflix already it doesn't matter if you watch it or not, you already paid.

That's a common criticism of the books. They're chock full of cool ideas but the dialogue and character building are rather limited. It's actually the entire reason I'm looking forward to this. If they can fix that side of the equation, we're in for a treat

I always figured the dialogue was a lost in translation/ cultural disconnect thing. What I had a problem with was the way Liu writes women. The way Zhuang Yen comes into the story into the second book made me want to puke.

I'm half way through The Dark Forest and while I'm really enjoying it, it's certainly not because of the character writing. Could just be a translation issue but a native speaker would have to chime in on that. I'm still enjoying going through the trilogy though just for the concepts alone.

That's because the book was not written in English. The translation preserves a lot of the cadence of the original Chinese writing. You may not be used to it, but that's not uncommon for translated works in general.

You're not alone. I tried reading them and the premise was something I could get behind but the way it was written drove me crazy. I agree that if they had a better translator to make it sound more native English, I probably would have been fine with it. Bit as it stands it sounded very Chinese still. I'm hoping the show will solve that problem for us.

Fwiw, usually "dialogue" is used for verbal speech. "Dialog" tends to be used for computer-related topics.

Yeah, the character development and dialogue is pretty bad. I rave about it for all the cool ideas it exposed me to. I value that more highly than pretty much anything else. To each their own :)

Are you me?

They’re pretty good. The quality of the writing, for me as an English speaker, was in the translation work by Ken Liu who did a phenomenal job.

I can’t imagine it’s easy to convey idioms/ideas that native speakers take for granted in a concise way.

I think he didn’t do the second book or third and it shows. Still good but more stilted.

All that is to say that the incongruity and style may be a side effect of the translation process itself.

The ideas were mostly neat but I just couldn't abide the plot being driven by absurdly stupid actions over and over.

I am personally wondering how they will pull it off. My guess is that the story/plot/pacing will be based on the book, but I'm sure they'll add in more characters and drama. Probably heavily rearrange the order too.

I don't understand this sentiment. I read and enjoyed the books and also watched the Chinese series on YouTube, and while I think the Chinese production was decent I'm definitely interested to see what Netflix can do with [what I assume to be] a bigger budget as there is definitely room for improvement.