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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 103 points 6 months ago (4 children)

They say on the bottle that it's a blend so I don't think this is that infuriating. Though if I saw "Texas Honey Blend" I'd assume it's cut with crude oil.

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[–] TK420@lemmy.world 65 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It’s a blend of honey and high fructose corn syrup, what in the ever living fuck is high fructose corn syrup doing in honey? Oh, making more profits by cutting it.

Death to high fructose corn syrup

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 21 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I can see it being useful if you’re making candy. Different sugars crystallize differently, so it’s not uncommon to mix corn syrup and sugar to get the right ratio.

But they’re also making “pancake syrup” that is corn syrup dyed and flavored to approximate maple syrup which is a crime against nature.

[–] decerian@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

If you're mixing things up in the kitchen, typically you try to be somewhat precise with ratios.

The difference in this case being that because the actual ratio of the blend is unknown, you don't actually know how it would crystallize. Technically they could even change up the ratio week to week based on the price of high-fructose corn syrup so you wouldn't even get consistency from it.

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Even brands like log cabin who claim to use "no high fructose corn syrup" are just corn syrup and sugar. There are people who go their entire lives eating pancake syrup and table syrup on their pancakes, and die never having tasted actual maple syrup.

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[–] SexWithDogs@infosec.pub 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe just me personally, but if they're gonna put "blend" on the bottle I'd be more inclined to assume it's intended as a selling point rather than a begrudging legal requirement.

Many thanks.

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[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (7 children)

What in the hell? You think this is ok? A honey blend implies a blend of.....wait for it..... different HONEY.

Not a blend of super cheap and super unhealthy syrup.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 86 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (11 children)

Only in America.
OK maybe not, but at least here it's illegal to label it honey if it isn't 100% pure honey. that goes for all of EU, where it's illegal to add sugar, according to the EU honey directive.
The result is that you buy either Honey or Syrup, you know what you get, and you get what you pay for.

Edit:

Apparently it's illegal in USA too, whether adding the word "blend" makes it legal IDK. It is sort of a warning sign but still misleading.

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[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 56 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I was permanently banned from the Reddit sub without recourse for posting this

Looks at username

You're sure it wasn't for... other reasons?

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Na, that would get upvotes and 5 generic comments

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[–] derf82@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (12 children)

At least they label it so you can avoid it.

But they call it honey blend, which implies it's a blend of honey from different sources.
This would absolutely be deemed misleading advertising here.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It sucks in the US where misleading labeling gets a free pass for being technically corrent if you squint hard enough is not considered misleading.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 6 months ago

If they were Really Smart™ they would just lable it as a dietary supplement, then all regulation goes out the window and it's a free-for-all!

[–] dan@upvote.au 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

In the USA, it's recommended to label it as "Honey with corn syrup" (PDF: https://www.fda.gov/files/food/published/PDF---Guidance-for-Industry--Proper-Labeling-of-Honey-and-Honey-Products.pdf) but that's just a recommendation, not a law. The FDA should get stricter about this.

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[–] Unsmooth7439@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

I think that interpretation cuts both ways, where the 'blend' could also imply that the honey is blended with something other than honey.

[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I agree. This should be called a honey sauce at best.

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[–] SexWithDogs@infosec.pub 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I heard about that. I wouldn't even buy beeswax from Amazon because I heard all the horror stories of even some of the highly rated products being cut with Paraffin, which gives me headaches. I could give you a list.

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[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 40 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Hmm that would be illegal in the EU and UK, where nutritional info and proportion of honey would be required.

Quite tempted to write in though. Anyone else?

[–] Leeker@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is also required in America. The FDA requires it except for small business. Also the EU wouldn't even let this have the word "Honey" in the name at all. I'd assume that the retail business above doesn't reach the threshold of 500,000 so can request for an exemption of nutritional labeling.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A local supermarket chain got a fine because they had "fake cheese" sold in the cheese section. It wasn't labeled as cheese, but it was under a large CHEESE banner. I think it was leftovers from cheese production just mixed up.

I'm ok with not throwing away stuff, but it tasted like sin, even for cheap industrial cheese standard.

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[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay, this is the line that should not be crossed, we should evict Texas.

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[–] its_the_new_style@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I live near by this area. I also buy honey from Kelley's regularly, but have never seen this abomination. The honey they sell around here is 100% grade a raw unfiltered. It also has nutrition information on the bottle.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Wait, why can't you feed it to Children under one?
Some type of bacteria they're not ready to handle yet?

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Correct. Infant botulism can result from bacteria in raw honey that is otherwise harmless to anyone with a developed immune system.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 27 points 6 months ago (3 children)

At first I was like “yeah doesn’t everyone know that?” And then I realized that I didn’t know that until I had kids.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I have a kid and this is the first I'm hearing about it.

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[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 months ago

Basically, yeah.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are bacterial spores that are no danger to nearly all adults but will absolutely end your baby.

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[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

ITT:

Americans: I'm so used to being lied to about literally everything that this doesn't seem that bad.

Smh...

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It isn't that bad.

It says "made with real honey", which is a pretty big clue that it isn't real honey.

It says "texas honey blend", again indicating that it's honey blended with something.

And, as for "gourmet" it's in a plastic bear-shaped container, it's not a luxury item.

If people want to buy stuff made from high fructose corn syrup, shouldn't they be allowed to do it? How much more obvious does it need to be that this isn't pure honey?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

You sir are on the right side of the IQ bell curve. We need packaging that people on the left side of the bell curve can understand.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I guess this is pretty American of me, but it's called "honey blend" for a reason.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

I’m American, and honey blend implies to me that it is a mix of different types of honey. Like clover honey and whatnot. Kinda like a Red blend wine is a mix of different wines, not 50% merlot/50% rubbing alcohol or something.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You might say that Reddit is mostly just high fructose corn syrup, while Lemmy is pure, responsibly sourced honey.

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[–] Splatterphace@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All text in large print, but you have to write them snail mail for the nutritional information, which is required by law to be printed on the label.

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

How old is that bottle? I looked at their website and they don't even sell this product.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I got a shock random permaban in one of my preferred niche subs from someone obviously having a bad day and projecting it outwardly. It made me sit up and ask why I was putting up with so much nonsense and abandoned reddit that very moment. I had been dipping my toes into Lemmy but this made me dive in head first.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I was told a long time ago that if it says "Made with..", you should always mentally add "very little of..."

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[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Would corn syrup stop it from becoming solid? I love honey but budget mind thinks, "buy bulk" and 1 yr later I have like half a quart left to practice my own tar experiment.

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[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (4 children)

At least the ingredients are being honest. It's a massive problem around the world. They even have insanely sophisticated testing machines that are even fooled sometimes.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Report them to… I think it’s the FDA that oversees food labels?

They’re violating federal regulations.

[–] philpo@feddit.de 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As if that is something someone in Texas cares about these days.

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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm seeing the nutritional value thing, but I don't see what the other comments are talking about...

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It's not honey, it's high fructose corn syrup

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Technically since honey is listed first it should be at least mostly honey, as in 51% or more. But it is probably mostly corn syrup and the phrasing is intended to discourage lawsuits that would lead to anyone checking the ratio.

Which is really bad since only needing to be 51% of the thing is a pretty low bar in the first place.

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[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Isn't it honey AND high fructose corn syrup, and with honey being above the syrup it's mostly honey?

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