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    In all seriousness it's very exciting, I just don't need to see the same information worded 20 different ways from random clickbait sites lol

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    [–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 87 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It did take like 20 years to reach 3 percent and now we're at 4 so I think it's alright to be excited.

    [–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Turning of the hockey stick. Invest now.

    [–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Ah yes, invest in Linux...

    [–] knorke3@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

    well, you can always donate to open source projects...

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 months ago
    [–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 57 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Look....I use Linux. I love Linux. But let's be honest. That 4 percent is largely due to the steam deck; a gaming handheld where the vast majority of users don't know (or care) what operating system it uses as long as they can play their steam games on the go.

    That's not "year of the Linux desktop", because it's not a desktop. It just has one hidden under the hood if you want to dig past the steam layer (which, as I said...the vast majority of users never will)

    The year of the Linux desktop won't arrive until there is sufficient market share that software manufacturers are inclined to support us natively. That won't happen with a gaming handheld because no one would want to use a gaming handheld as a daily driver.

    Sorry to be a wet blanket, folks. Downvote away....

    [–] Pantherina@feddit.de 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Thats like calling MacOS and Playstation rises the "year of the BSD desktop"

    Change my mind.

    [–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 months ago

    Android devices are the true year of the Linux desktop.

    [–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

    Ok, compile some code on your PlayStation

    [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 21 points 8 months ago

    Most computer users don't even know what an operating system is

    [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 14 points 8 months ago

    I agree Steam Deck played a role, but they didn't sell enough to make that large of an increase. That'd be insane. However, it did cause the appearance of gaming on Linux to change, which is the thing that was holding back a large number of users.

    I had used Linux several times over the past decade or so. It was never my main OS, and I had actually stopped using it completely for probably 5 years, maybe more. This is exclusively because gaming on Linux was an issue and I didn't want to swap OSs just to play a game. Last year I went 100% Linux. I know I'm not the only one, and I'm extremely confident that the increase is mostly this, not the Steam Deck. The number of Steam Decks sold seems to be maybe 6m on the high end of estimates, which is not enough.

    The Steam Deck was a catalyst, but it is not the source of the change.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 8 months ago

    That is not really true as far as I can tell. Linux is growing because it is maturing as a ecosystem. We don't need a bunch of proprietary software to have a good experience

    [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

    Only 1.63% of Steam users were using Linux in 2023. Since pretty much all Steam Deck users are going to be using Steam, we can't attribute Linux's increase in market share to the Steam Deck alone.

    [–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 7 points 8 months ago

    It's the year of the Linux phone! Oh wait that happened like 15 years ago and now they make up like 70% of the global market!

    [–] rdri@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

    due to the steam deck

    You sure? Not proton?

    [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

    India, the country with the largest population, has a 15% desktop Linux marketshare.

    Additionally, these surveys are highly inaccurate. They are at best a "conservatively low balled figure". Linux installations don't send a ping to a server anywhere to count the install, and there's no other facility to gauge or count through the Linux ecosystem itself. Most computers used for Linux are also sold with Windows pre-installed, which means there's no clean way to use sales figures either.

    All that leaves is the browser user agent when visiting select websites that track and share the number of unique visitors that identify as Linux.

    I did the math a few months ago in a different discussion (not on Lemmy) and my math at the time came up to about 50 million desktop Linux users, and that was using the "official" reported numbers of 3.x% at the time.

    That also ignores that the Stack Overflow developer survey puts desktop Linux at over 50% for personal use, and (IIRC) about 47% for professional use.

    But let's be honest

    You can't be honest if you look at a single boiled down percentage of a very large, very diverse and technical landscape with more variations and caveats than the English language.

    Also, in case anyone is wondering, the Stack Overflow numbers didn't include WSL. If you do include that then desktop Linux usage was over 70% for personal use.

    [–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

    It is actually a good thing because "I need windows for gaming" is the biggest reason why compsci and IT people still have windows.

    You're still right that it won't win over non tech people though.

    [–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

    I'm pretty sure that this specific statistic leverages internet-user-agents. So a Steamdeck probably wouldn't be counted in as they aren't really used for browsing.

    [–] Kiryu@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Linux Mint checking in!

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    We got it? Nice... Gotta go and make a meme about it.

    [–] kryllic@programming.dev 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    If you can't beat 'em join 'em

    [–] whostosay@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    There are memes about this??? Where can I find one?

    [–] person@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)
    [–] whostosay@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Damn, I was about to reply saying a very polite "no shit, that's the joke" then decided to check the link in case it was funny. I've been had by my own shit. Thanks for that.

    [–] neidu2@feddit.nl 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Every year is the year of the linux desktop. It's just that most don't know it yet.

    [–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    every year since 2022 is the year of the Linux desktop. get used to it nerd

    [–] MyNamesNotRobert@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 8 months ago

    Every year since 1993 is the year is the Linux desktop 😎

    [–] FrancisFeliz@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yesterday my school principal decided to install Debian on all the school computers, lol.

    [–] Liz@midwest.social 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You would think schools would be all for it, especially since Microsoft office is a subscription service now.

    [–] westyvw@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

    All the schools I have seen are using Google docs and sheets.

    [–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 8 months ago

    Doesn't really matter when virtually any business they end up working for will be using Mac or Windows.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    How big is the school? That seems like quite the chore for one guy

    [–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

    bro manually typing sudo apt update into 200 computers before learning he couldve just cloned the drive

    [–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

    And that's why you use NixOS instead!

    [–] tombruzzo@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You'll lose your shit when it hits 5%

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

    Unironically, yes. That'll be a huge milestone. It'll probably happen pretty soon, too, with the way Linux adoption seems to be accelerating.

    [–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 8 points 8 months ago

    Damn, a lot of people bought Steam Decks.

    [–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Linux desktop and fusion energy have something in common, it seems.

    [–] femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago

    No one realizes that the equation to calculate both of them have a limit where a value is devided by x where x is approaching 0

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    The only thing it can't do is leave the lab.

    [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Are all top 500 super computers, all the computers at CERN, the servers at Google, Facebook, Amazon, Azure, Netflix, eBay, etc, just a lab?

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    [–] kbal@fedia.io 5 points 8 months ago

    To forestall the year 2038 problem maybe we could just start reckoning time based on years of the linux desktop.

    Today is 06 March 33 YLD

    [–] menzel@programming.dev 5 points 8 months ago

    The year of the Linux desktop is long ago, but this year definitely will be the year of Linux mobile

    [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

    The combined number of years of my marriage and the ages of all of my children is a number that when subtracted from 2024 would not equal the first time I heard this.

    [–] aeharding@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

    Upvote for Jimmy Neutron meme

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    i'll switch 100% to linux when Logitech supports my steering wheel.

    [–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Which one? The G27/G920/G29 and some others are supported pretty much out of the box.

    Not thanks to Logitech but they do work fine.

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

    G928 and the pedals and shifter

    [–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

    We finally hopped ship this year. Some small bs antifeature finally pissed us off enough to (gasp) learn something new and now I can't find my way out of Vim.

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