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[–] Konstant@lemmy.world 81 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The other day I was watching a girl streaming travelling solo in India and I was left wondering...isn't this dangerous? It is.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 67 points 8 months ago (4 children)

My wife is looking for diet/ health camps. I swear, every fucking place she brings to me is in the most dangerous places in the world for a solo woman. India was one, remote Mexico another. Every single one has had lvl 2 or worse travel advisories. I think the only one that didn't was Albania, which just had rampant organized crime and sex trafficking.

It's like she's trying to speed run "victim in a very obviously dangerous place"

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 29 points 8 months ago (4 children)

This is perhaps a bit unsolicited so feel free to disregard, but in my experience this kind of fat camp nonsense doesn’t really help long term. The only thing that can do that for her is to address her everyday dietary habits and level of exercise.

The hardest thing about getting thin is staying thin outside the first burst of motivation.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yup, I agree. Doesn't stop her from wanting it, though.

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think the only one that didn’t was Albania, which just had rampant organized crime and sex trafficking.

Not just sex trafficking, human trafficking in general, also includes e.g. men being forced to work on Greek farms. Plenty of political will to crack down on it but Albania isn't exactly in a state to throw tons of money at any problem.

Realistically speaking the risk as as foreigner is approximately zero, you're much, much more likely to have your pockets picked or caravan broken into. Which might be less likely in say Denmark but also not exactly unheard of. The breaking in part, that is, pickpockets are rampant in any crowded touristy place in Europe.

They're actually close to EU accession but it's tied to that of North Macedonia (because lots of ethnic Albanians in North Macedonia and noone wants to create a mass exodus) and while the beef with Greece has been fixed and the beef with Bulgaria is getting dealt with it'll still take a while. Big-issue items but OTOH it's all ancient history, think about Germany and France getting into a spat because one wants to have Charlemagne all for themselves. Generally a good idea to address that kind of baggage before EU accession which is exactly why states force those issues with their veto but meanwhile Albania is sitting there on the door sill, rolling their eyes while freezing in the cold.

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[–] theedqueen@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Assuming you’ve brought up the danger the first or second time she found something, how is she still picking dangerous locations?

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

She thinks she's invulnerable because she traveled alone a lot in her 20s. And she's looking for affordable retreats, which unsurprisingly means outside of touristy areas.

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[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Check to see if she posts any more videos.

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[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 57 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Man, India always has the worst news stories coming out of it.

[–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

Man, India used to be a place of beauty and spirituality. Nowadays it feels like a stain on the human population. Don't get me wrong, I still really love the culture and the food, but there's a lot of societal problems that don't get addressed because of poorer government management.

Edit: lmao I tried giving India the benefit of the doubt

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Wha-haha?..

That "place of beauty and spirituality" and other hippie perceptions of all those remote countries were and are colonial bullshit. Same as Taro cards, Japanese and Chinese martial arts' popularity, feel free to add anything I forgot.

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Was it though?

I don't really know anything about India so who knows, maybe you're right and everything there used to be lovely.

Seems more likely that in the past things just weren't reported.

[–] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 8 months ago

[...] used to be perceived as a place of beauty and spirituality [...]

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

sexual conservatism

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Man, India used to be a place of beauty and spirituality.

Pakistan being a thing because they thought a nationalist Hindustan was cringe

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

Are you talking about the pre-colonial era? Because it's been the same, probably even worse, since before any of us were alive.

[–] i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago (69 children)
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

“Pfft, these people! They come to our country and expect to not be gang-raped. How dare they! Asshole elitist YouTube travel bloggers giving India a bad name!”

[–] i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

giving India a bad name

it already had a bad name, we are in a pit of endless downward spiral, our history can be summorized by just "and then it got worse" , since 8th century

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

Stats say it's steadily but slowly becoming better in the last ~50 years, but I've never been in India.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Coming from a conservative religious country myself, I'm guessing sexual repression and misogyny comes into play but there must be more to this. There are just as culturally repressive countries but you hear fewer cases of this violent and rampant level rape on tourists and locals unlike in India.

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[–] corymbia@reddthat.com 17 points 8 months ago

India being India.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why gang rape though? Are these like organized groups? Or, a flash mob of rapists forms on the spot?

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