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At the Young Republican mixer Friday evening a group of Nazis, who openly identified as national socialists, mingled with mainstream conservative personalities, including some from Turning Point USA, and discussed race science and antisemitic conspiracy theories.

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[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 155 points 7 months ago (1 children)

CPAC is definitely a Nazi bar.

A few years back they made the stage in the shape of an odal rune. They’re not even trying very hard to hide it anymore.

yikes

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 101 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, you mean this CPAC?

That is not an edited photo.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (9 children)

As someone who absolutely loves runes, this hurts my heart. At its simplest and most ancient, it is a letter in a written alphabet that represents a sound. But over time, each rune has come to represent a philosophical idea, and for some, spiritual meanings. Othala is no different. But NONE of them involve racial and sexual exclusionary hatred like this.

You're free to stop reading here because the rest of what I have to say is completely philosophical. But if you want to know what this rune really stands for and how far the Nazis have twisted it from its traditional meaning, read on.

The rune Othala above, the primary rune these racist shitheads have incorrectly appropriated (there are a few others if I remember correctly, including sowilo, the sun rune) is traditionally linked to all the things human beings equally call our home: family, inheritance, family name, duty to family, and ancestors.

In the Northumbrian tradition, it comes from two words meaning "own earth" or "own land." It's about what belongs to us by right, but it's equally about what we owe others, and how inclusion in society requires our own effort and right behavior.

Among others from various Nothern European countries, there is a bit of ancient literature from the UK that defines the Elder Futhark runes called the Old English Rune poem. One translation of the Old English rune poem says of Othala: “Home is loved by all people, if there rightfully and in peace we may enjoy many harvests in the hall.” Again, clearly, the idea of Home and all its goodness is for everyone.

To quote a much more modern book on the runes, "The [Othala] stanza in the Old English rune poem is about heritage, patriotism, rights, and freedom. It says we all love our homeland, as long as we have our rights, proper treatment, and a fair opportunity to prosper. These rights are for “each and every man,” not just the princes and earls that the poem usually talks about. “Properness” means that we need to be treated properly and we need to act in a way that is proper for our society. In other words, we need to belong."

I could go on, but that's probably enough. All that's a far cry from what Othala has been twisted into by the fascists. Othala is about strengthening connections with other people, not this hateful Nazi shit.

Next time you see Othala misused by the white supremacists, remember that this, too, is just one more big fat lie and twisting of historical fact the fascists have on offer for anyone stupid or scared enough to buy into it.

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[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (15 children)
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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 97 points 7 months ago

This headline is misleading. It should read CPAC is a nazi organization. Something about dining with nazis.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 82 points 7 months ago

Are you telling me the group that used a nazi symbol as the shape of their stage is now openly affiliating themselves with nazis?

Quelle surprise!

[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 7 months ago

No that can't be.

Conservatives are always telling us how Nazis were actually left-wing... it's in the name, socialists?!

How quickly they forget, once the racist and antisemitic nonsense circulates.

And if anyone is wondering:

  • Human rights for Palestinians = not antisemitic
  • Nazis at CPAC = 100% antisemitic
[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 64 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This year, however, some attendees and former attendees have expressed frustration with the conference’s stronger association with Trump and his wing of the party.

If I was frustrated that Nazis are co-opting my political party, I'm kicking them out or leaving the party that welcomes them.

Anything less, you're part of a Nazi movement.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Weirdly enough Hitler somewhat co-opted the NAZI party. Riping out any real socialism. Not how that matters here....

[–] DoctorSpocktopus@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Goebels was actually quite put out by Hitler not meeting his socialist dreams, but all was forgiven when he got to propagate massive antisemitism instead

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Hey sometimes you have to pivot, it is always good to have backup goals. /s

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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Just because it needs to be pointed out every time. If they were frustrated by fascists/Nazis co-opting the party. They're 100 years too late.

The father and grandfather of 2 American presidents was implicated. As well as the head of JP Morgan at the time. No one was punished, or called out even. And the history of the incident has largely been completely scrubbed out of existence.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago

But this year, racist conspiracy theorists didn’t meet any perceptible resistance at the conference where Donald Trump has been the keynote speaker since 2017.

At the Young Republican mixer Friday evening, a group of Nazis who openly identified as national socialists mingled with mainstream conservative personalities, including some from Turning Point USA, and discussed so-called “race science” and antisemitic conspiracy theories.

One member of the group, Greg Conte, who attended the deadly 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, said that his group showed up to talk to the media. He said that the group was prepared to be ejected if CPAC organizers were tipped off, but that never happened.

Another, Ryan Sanchez, who was previously part of the Nazi “Rise Above Movement,” took photos and videos of himself at the conference with an official badge and touted associations with Fuentes.

Other attendees in Sanchez’s company openly used the N-word.

republiQans: this is you

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I heard Paul Gosar shaves his butthole once a year in preparation for this mixer.

[–] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What? You don’t condition your butt hair?

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It’s a gay mixer for young virile Nazi men and politicians

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

How do you spread Nazi rhetoric at CPAC? Sell merch? Because one would think market saturation would already be at 100% for that sort of ideology at an event like that.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago (8 children)

So there's definitely a Zionist wing of the party. What's gonna happen when they come into contact with the Nazi wing of the party?

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 53 points 7 months ago (4 children)

A lot of the support of Israel is not because they like Jews but rather because many evangelicals believe supporting them will hasten the apocalypse.

A 2017 LifeWay poll conducted in United States found that 80% of evangelical Christians believed that the creation of Israel in 1948 was a fulfillment of biblical prophecy that would bring about Christ's return and more than 50% of Evangelical Christians believed that they support Israel because it is important for fulfilling the prophecy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also, shipping the Jews off to Israel means they're away from here. Zionism could be restated as "Jewish removal."

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[–] speck@kbin.social 14 points 7 months ago

Goddamn we are a bonkers species. Really gives credence to the idea of memetic evolution, at least to me

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It seems like a lot of Nazis tend to make common cause with Zionists. Remember that the first plan the Nazis had was to deport all the Jews, so having them all in one place is fine by them.

[–] bigbabypuddingsnatcher@kbin.social 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ethno-nationalists gonna ethno-nationalist

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A lot of racists don't think they're racist because they don't hate "others", they just think they belong in their own place. They're angry that the "others" are where they are.

They're still raging pieces of shit. I'm just sharing some of their thoughts. Being a white drunk in Texas gives me the opportunity to hear all kinds of dumb shit.

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They all set aside their differences and appreciate their true goals of enriching themselves through being fascist bootlickers

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

The Zionist wing of the Republican party doesn't care at all about Jews. They're Christian fundamentalists who believe that the Jews need to control the holy land so that Jesus can come back and end the world. They only want the Jews in Israel long enough to fulfill that purpose, then they want them to be wiped out and go to hell.

[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 7 months ago

They’re the same wing. They believe that the current Jewish state isn’t Jewish enough and that the true Judaism is actually Christianity.

I wish I was kidding, but I actually know people that fall into this camp.

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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

In other news:

Skiers mingle openly at ski resort.

Golfers mingle openly at country club.

Trekkies mingle openly at ComicCon

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 19 points 7 months ago

Does anyone remember this?

House GOP Conference Chair Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y. — who recently went viral for engaging in a contentious exchange with university presidents at a congressional hearing on antisemitism — on Saturday praised the resignation of University of Pennsylvania President Liz Magill.

"One down. Two to go," Stefanik wrote on X. "This is only the very beginning of addressing the pervasive rot of antisemitism that has destroyed the most ‘prestigious’ higher education institutions in America."

So where the f**k is she now, during CPAC? Is she hiding out or something?

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Conservatives and Republicans are synonymous with Russians and Nazis. The CPAC convention is the indisputable proof.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Just republican shit.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So how long until they just go back to being outright silver shirts

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

They're there. This is that.

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