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[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The most fucked up part about this is that many countries – the US included – cut funding for UNRWA after this bullshit, and apparently even the UNRWA itself just took the accusations at face value and fired some of the accused

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean, even if it did have the 12 accused employees that were members of Hamas, I don’t see how that is a reason to defund the agency. UNRWA has thousands of employees. It sounds like an isolated thing?

I can guarantee you that there are more than 12 actual Nazis and members of the KKK in US police forces and its military, but it’s not like the whole organization gets defunded.

[–] BMatthew@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

And now reports of children starving to death are happening.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Hamas has infiltrated US intelligence, time to bomb Langley

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

The US knew it was BS all along. Just like the 40 dead babies claim. Now comes the quiet "maybe we were too hasty" backtrack now that the damage has been done and the kids are dying at appropriate numbers for the ghouls in the whitehouse and their clients in the Knesset

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Low confidence generally means questionable or implausible information was used, the information is too fragmented or poorly corroborated to make solid analytic inferences, or significant concerns or problems with sources existed.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the intelligence report, released last week, assessed with “low confidence” that a handful of staff had participated in the attack, indicating that it considered the accusations to be credible though it could not independently confirm their veracity.

The Wall Street Journal lying about how analysts rate intelligence to help Israeli propaganda? Why I never!

For those having trouble putting 2 and 2 together, this means our intelligence analysts are calling bullshit on Israel's claims.

[–] DolphinMath@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Relevant section from the WSJ article for anyone interested:

In the new report, which was completed last week, the U.S.’s National Intelligence Council, a group of veteran intelligence analysts, said it assessed with “low confidence” that a handful of Unrwa staffers participated in the Oct. 7 attack, those familiar with the findings said.

A low-confidence assessment indicates that the U.S. intelligence community believes the claims are plausible but cannot make a stronger assertion because it doesn’t have its own independent confirmation. The U.S. concluded the claims are “credible,” a U.S. official said.

U.S. officials said that American spy agencies haven’t traditionally focused on gathering intelligence on Gaza, and that Israel hadn’t shared the raw intelligence behind its assessments with the U.S., limiting their ability to reach clearer conclusions.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

And that's where the article is lying. "Low Confidence" is the rating that's essentially the trash bin. If they believed the claims were plausible they'd at least rate it moderate.

The official that says it's credible is Jake Sullivan, he said it publicly right after Israel made their claims.

I cannot overstate how trash the WSJ is on international politics. It's heavily biased at the least.

[–] DolphinMath@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)
[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

Interesting wording to say "israel lied and provided no evidence for their claims".

[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, but CIA is Hamas

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Casts doubt" in the title. Credible in the report from the CIA.

[–] chillhelm@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"credible reports" (but low confidence) of some employees of UNRWA participating in the attack. No evidence at all that UNRWA had partnered with Hamas or supported the attacks.

What that means is "somebody said that some people that work for UNRWA also participated in the attacks but we have found no proof either way."

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 7 months ago

They're credible because the CIA has no evidence to refute it and Israeli's equivalents didn't share the raw intelligence with them. Turns out spying on Hamas isn't something the US does a lot of. If they had evidence to refute it they'd call the reports conflicting or something similar.