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[–] Pissnpink@feddit.uk 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean, i get the idea of the comic, but i don't know if i agree with the "incremental change" sign. In my experience things change gradually then all at once. Incremental change is usually a part of the process.

Republicans didn't kill Roe all at once, it was a series of wins and losses over years until suddenly they were in a position to strip away rights from women.

[–] j_roby@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I see what you're saying... But, you don't start your negotiation by asking for incremental change. To continue on your analogy, the anti-abortion activists have been demanding a full stop to it up-front since they started...

Change may sometimes only happen incrementally, but nothing worthwhile will happen if that's all that's asked for.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I have to disagree. Anyone who has ever tried to be a force for change knows if you don't do it in stages it will blow up in your face. We can demand complete change but implementation should always be systematic.

Absolutely love the spirit of the comic, though. It's exactly my type of humor.

[–] thedevisinthedetails@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Ohh so your comic is false then and activists don't ask for incremental change?

Or it's false and they do incremental change on the way to getting their demands met?

Quit blaming and demoralizing your own side.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

No dumbass, he's trying to HELP his side by making them not roll over before real negotiations have even started.

If you want your side to win, stop cheering when they lose, loser.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago

I really don’t get the point of the comic. People demand the change they can imagine and think is possible. If they heard more radical ideas and conceived of them as possible, I think these same people would support them. But mocking them doesn’t really help us get there. And in the mean time, yes, incremental change still helps people survive.

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not an AI hater, but I am deeply unsettled by political AI content...

[–] Micromot@feddit.de -1 points 7 months ago

Are you sure this is ai or are you referencing something else?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Way too many people might not explicitly say it, but they clearly unironically agree with these signs, based on their actions and what they say they do and don't support.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. I'm one of those. Violent overthrows of the current order usually only lead to one clique of oppressors being replaced with another one. "But this time it will be different, for sure!" isn't a convincing argument.

[–] HorseRabbit@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Except for the American revolution, right? Or would you have been on the side of the loyalists?

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

You could ask the slaves that question. Also, that was more of a fight against foreign occupation than straight up revolution.