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What do we want? When do we want it? (slrpnk.net)

submitted 9 months ago by j_roby@slrpnk.net to c/memes@slrpnk.net

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[–] Pissnpink@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I mean, i get the idea of the comic, but i don't know if i agree with the "incremental change" sign. In my experience things change gradually then all at once. Incremental change is usually a part of the process.

Republicans didn't kill Roe all at once, it was a series of wins and losses over years until suddenly they were in a position to strip away rights from women.

[–] j_roby@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I see what you're saying... But, you don't start your negotiation by asking for incremental change. To continue on your analogy, the anti-abortion activists have been demanding a full stop to it up-front since they started...

Change may sometimes only happen incrementally, but nothing worthwhile will happen if that's all that's asked for.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I have to disagree. Anyone who has ever tried to be a force for change knows if you don't do it in stages it will blow up in your face. We can demand complete change but implementation should always be systematic.

Absolutely love the spirit of the comic, though. It's exactly my type of humor.

[–] thedevisinthedetails@programming.dev 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ohh so your comic is false then and activists don't ask for incremental change?

Or it's false and they do incremental change on the way to getting their demands met?

Quit blaming and demoralizing your own side.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

No dumbass, he's trying to HELP his side by making them not roll over before real negotiations have even started.

If you want your side to win, stop cheering when they lose, loser.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

I really don’t get the point of the comic. People demand the change they can imagine and think is possible. If they heard more radical ideas and conceived of them as possible, I think these same people would support them. But mocking them doesn’t really help us get there. And in the mean time, yes, incremental change still helps people survive.