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[–] a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They should have cast Randall Park as Mr. Fantastic. Lean real hard into the multiverse

[–] gramathy@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why did you put a picture of John krasinski?

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[–] Mozingo@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Pedro Pascal feels like a weird pick for Reed, but I quite like the idea of Joseph Quinn as Johnny.

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 11 points 10 months ago

I'm thrilled with Vanessa Kirby. That's exciting.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think Pedro has some nerd tendencies, hopefully he's not gonna play this like his Narcos character.

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[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I'll never understand the way they announce a film's premiere before they even start production. It all smells of the same bullshit corporate mechanism that cancels projects midway or ends up in theaters with subpar visuals and editing that feels rushed, with cookie-cutter action sequences and generic CGI villains.

The difference between
Film as product
and
Film as art

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

You can have a due date and still be "film as art".

The date might even move around, maybe it gets bumped a week, maybe moved to November, who knows.

Let's look at "Oppenheimer", that came out during the same timeframe as this film is expected to, late July. It started production in early 2022.

Fantastic Four is also starting (or already in) production. Each take a year and a half to be made. Why can't they both be art?

Making a film takes a lot of effort. So it makes sense that they would have a rough idea of how long it would take to make. Especially Disney/Marvel who have made A LOT of movies like this.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Studios schedule out pretty far in advance and every date affects everything else (they don't want their own movies competing with one another). And shooting schedules are affected by those schedules, which means your actors might not be available if you change something. MCU stuff is further complicated by the fact that there's links between the movies.

There's definitely movies that are made on a less strict time frame but you often don't see those put on the schedule until they're complete. So you'll see a long gap between when they're finished and when they're in theaters.

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Oppenheimer wasn't a generic ass superhero of the week™ either.

[–] fleabomber@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago

This is the good one.

Source trust me bro.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes?

Once released, it will have been 10 years since the last film (which was ok for the first two thirds, then a trash fire), and 20 years since the Fox series which was a very different brand of superhero movie. It was fitting for that era, but wildly different from what superhero movies look like nowadays.

Plus, it isn't like Lord of the Rings where the definitive version has already been made.

The Fantastic Four have a shared starting point, but after that they can go on a variety of different adventures.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

Fanfourstic was 10 years ago??

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[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

yeah... i know "the multiverse" will make it easy to explain away.... but then again ALL Stranges, Wandas, and Antmans looked the same across the verses...

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Or even Lokis

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 4 points 10 months ago

I feel like plenty of multiverses have already done the "sometimes people look the same and sometimes people look different" kinda trope, directly because of the using the same or different actors dilemma.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Pedro Pascal is a good actor, but he’s already playing two other “superhero” style roles. You would think they could find someone who isn’t already a part of other franchises.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also does he seem anything like the role? He plays scrappy underdog turned unwilling but very capable hero well. Does he have a captain America / researcher?

[–] Gaspar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

I think a lot of people either forget or didn't watch Wonder Woman 1984, where he plays businessman and snake Maxwell Lord (from the "Life is good, but it can be better" meme).

I'm cautiously optimistic. I think he's got what it takes.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think Disney really understands Fantastic Four. Reed Richards is a monster like Doom. He's a "good" monster but a monster nonetheless. Who would risk their family and friends over and over for their personal scientific glory?

They needed someone like Glenn Howerton to sell the idea of that kind of maniac.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

After Last of Us, I think he could pull it off, but you're right. Personally I think he'd have made a good Dr. Doom.

I think Cilian Murphy could pull off a proper monster Mr. Fantastic.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Duuuuuuuude.. Yas...

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] vladmech@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Honestly I hope not. Or have pre Doom Victor hanging out with Reed in a flashback. But give me Mole Man or something more low scale for the first movie

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Same, we got doom a bunch already with first F4 movies, let’s save him and do him actual justice this time

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 months ago

I doubt they'd drop someone like moleman for fantastic 4, it's more likely they'll throw a newer standalone hero or villain alongside the 4 to establish them easily, like Ironheart in Black Panther 2 or basically half of marvel in fantastic four comics through the 1960s.

[–] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The only meaningful comment on this thread so far.

With Jonathan Majors out, they could be bringing Doom in but there haven't been any solid reports regarding what they're going to do about Kang.

Hell, they could have Deadpool and Wolverine eliminate Kang from the multiverse in their movie and end up creating Doom.

First off, I need to find out more about these actors. I know Pedro Pascal mostly from Mando and memes. The others I'm only vaguely aware of.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Re actors,

Vanessa Kirby you can find in "The Crown" (Season 1 & 2), but also more recently in the newest Mission Impossible films. Not who I would have guessed for Sue Storm, but I think she'll do a great job.

Ebon Moss-Bachrach is going to be great as Ben Grimm. I would suggest watching The Bear and while you're at it Andor (since you're already a Star Wars fan). I'm more excited for him than Pedro, and I really really like Pedro.

Joseph Quinn isn't a name I recognized, but he played Eddie (the DM) on the most recent season on Stranger Things. Which, knowing that, is actually a great choice.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

Thank you for asking the important question.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

About 30 voice actors who didn't consent to an AI scraping.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can't believe they're still giving this franchise another shot.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

why create something new when they have a huge back catalog to reboot over and over and over?

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings?

Eternals?

Moon Knight?

Ms Marvel?

Echo?

They're allowed to both do new things and reboot old things.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I actually want more moon knight. I never read the comics but the series was just the right level of goofy for me. The rest of them seemed like too much mental commitment to me to get in to.

[–] ioslife@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Comics are sick and really lean into the DID. If you go with certain runs, they go super into the Egyptian lore too if you’re into that thing.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Fantastic 4 was marvels first big comic. They were obviously going to make a MCU movie eventually.

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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Pedro Pascal? Adoptive father of orphans across the universe and space-time?

[–] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Rob Schneider is.......an Astronaut!

[–] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

He can do it!

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

De derp de derp de diddly derpie doo!

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] vladmech@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Haha whoops! I love that Lemmy lets me edit the title

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Marvel just needs to fucking stop for about 4 years and let their shitty ass movies cook a bit more. I'm sure this will stink just like all the other crap they've shoveled the past 3 years. Sad because I quite like all the actors they picked for this one.

[–] MarioSpeedWagon@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This year is the break. We only have 1 movie (Deadpool) this year and it was pushed back because of the strike. This is supposed to be the soft reboot leading up to the large reboot of secret wars.

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[–] Aatube@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

On Valentine's Day?

[–] dornad@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Cousin, I wear unstable molecule suits now.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck

(to be fair the bar was set pretty low with the other films)

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