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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 144 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Fucking clown

People are taking on credit card debt for lots of reasons: emergencies, unexpected bills, gaps in weekly pay, but almost no one is doing it because YOLO

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 74 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"but that doesn't make the poors sound irresponsible! we have to make them sound irresponsible so we can then swoop in and save them from themselves!" the banking shill, probably.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"...so we can then swoop in and save them from themselves!” the banking shill, probably.

I'm not so sure about that "probably." I think "so we can then swoop in and exploit them with even more predatory products and services!" is more likely.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Mine was the for-public-release version. Yours is the internal memo

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 37 points 7 months ago

Me paying the hospital bill because they wouldn't negotiate and threatened to send it to collections: YOLO 🥲

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I dunno... I started watching Caleb Hammer on youtube and some of the people he's had on his show make me second guess the state of humanity.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just saw a clip of a $1300 car payment on $3300 income. Floored.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Yeah it's almost always stupid expensive cars that get people in stupid debt on that show. But they "had to have a new car" 🙄

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

You're not wrong but hey, a guy's gotta eat.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I want to agree with you buy I don't want to go off based on a blurb in a shitrag such as business insider.

Maybe Rosenberg has collected spending data and noticed increase in spending at e-commerce sites and malls?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Maybe, but even then is it YOLO to use credit to buy new clothes for work?

I'm certain that the data is far more complicated than is being presented.

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[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

Oh? Hold my beer....

[–] downhomechunk@midwest.social 72 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My household debt shot way up in the last year. I had a couple unplanned home repairs and a whole lot of hospital bills for my 4 year old. YOLO!

[–] ours@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The American people should demand better of their Government. Debt to take care of your kid.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

demand better

"Sounds like someone wants a rubber bullet and tear gas sandwich with some trumped up terrorism charges for desert!" - basically every police department

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Ah, good catch, thank you

Sheesh, they're is no reason this language has to be so confusing

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 63 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ironic that this article is paywalled, so poor people don't get to read more bullshit blaming poor people for costing predatory lenders money.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’m not specifically advocating for this but am kinda astounded that with how many folks became weirdly obsessed with Fight Club for all the wrong reasons that one of them hasn’t at least tried to destroy a credit card company and its records.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 7 points 7 months ago

The credit card companies are just middlemen that process transactions for banks. All you'd get from blowing them up is lines to pull cash from the bank and bills in the mail to pay by check.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

>Thinking all that data isn't backed up to 4 different locations

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I realize that, I’m just shocked someone hasn’t attempted it without knowing

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Maybe because it is too impersonal? Like you can hate a person, hating an industry feels harder to do.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But they didn't do that with the Death Star!

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

That's because George Lucas is a hack

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think everyone should just collectively decide to quit paying their CC, en masse.

Mostly because I'm curious what would happen.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

The first rule of Fight Club is, you do not talk about Fight Club.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Credit card bailout coming in 5... 4... 3...

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 37 points 7 months ago

Bailing out the credit card companies but not the people, of course

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Economists say what their employer pays them to say. Even when they might be correct about something they should not be trusted anymore than you should trust the prosecution if you were in criminal court or the police officers interrogating you if you are a suspect in a crime.

Noticed how the "economist" here is avocado toasting instead of talking about the whole scale destruction of the middle class via shitty medical insurance programs and shitty infrastructure? Notice how he isn't going after the high frequency traders or short term thinking running rampant in our tech/industrial sector?

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Impulsive spending has always been a problem for some people. It's nothing new.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't blame them. There's entire industries devoted to getting people to impulse buy. Almost $300 billion a year to convince us to buy things we otherwise wouldn't. And that's just for advertising alone.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I also don’t blame them because sometimes that’s the only real dopamine hit they get from their entire month’s paycheck.. and that’s wildly depressing.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (6 children)

When you know buying your own home is impossible, why not use credit card to buy stuff that might give you dopamine hit, like shoes or clothes?

[–] Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Because that's exactly what makes owning a home impossible instead of simply unrealistically difficult? Our system may be trash, but that attitude is just shooting yourself in the foot while you give everything you have to Papa Bezos.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Homes are selling for over half a million in my city.

Oh we can save some time. No, I am not moving out two or more hours away from work to be able to afford a home. Yes, I am aware that smaller starter homes are a thing. No, I am not going to bother every relative I have for money. And yes I enjoy avocado toast

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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Consumer credit is right around where it was pre-pandemic if you adjust for how much the economy has grown. It's high, but you need more than this to call it a bubble. This is just how the US economy works.

Americans as a whole charge more on their credit cards when the economy is doing well like it was pre-pandemic and like it is now. When they are uncertain about their jobs, they pay it down or buy less so it doesn't increase.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've never understood letting credit card balances ride unless you literally could not afford it. You're just willingly paying more for things.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because buying shit is addictive, and credit card companies exploit people with poor impulse control. Most people don't know how compound interest works either.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

I wonder if it would be best to implement some sort of rule where if someone has more than $1000 building up interest on a card they can't use the card anymore until it's been paid off in full. Or if that would just funnel people to predatory lenders and loan sharks.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

Medical Debt is technically YOLO debt

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