Well, the fact that he calls the protest "noise" shows us how he sees our opinions.
this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2023
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That is just how they see their users. People high up do not see reddit as a community, but a bunch of "quality text" producing machine that will make them money.
Idk I'm liking Lemmy quite a bit and have no real appetite to go back to a social media platform that is hostile towards it's users.
Agreed! It’s a little rough right now, but it honestly feels like Reddit did years ago. I hope we get enough action over here to pull people away for good
He’s right, it will. And that’s the problem.
A two day blackout means nothing to Spez and Reddit. What it tells them is “we can treat the userbase and developers like shit and they’ll still use our platform for the other 363 days of the year”.
The only thing that will force Reddit to the negotiating table is blacking out indefinitely. Not a single protesting subreddit opens back up until they realise what made the company so attractive to investors in the first place.
Fine. Let him have the place. The experience here on Lemmy has been vastly superior anyway. Engagement is 1,000x better. It’s night and day how much kinder, thoughtful, and intelligent people here have been.
It certainly will eventually, all things do. The real question is what Reddit looks like after.
I suspect it will be something quite different, and something I want no part of any more.
For sure it will pass. I think the reddit landscape in the aftermath largely depends on the duration of the blackout. I think for people go truly shake the habit, it needs to go on for a signficant amount of time. Otherwise the masses will return, forget, and move on.
I'm currently using the Jerboa app. To put it nicely, it's rather lacking, and that might stop people from switching. But it's still a significantly better experience for my use case than the native Reddit app. No clutter, no ads, no useless whitespace. Just the posts and the comments.
When the RIF developer makes a lemmy app, I think that might be the tipping point for a lot of people.
He's right. Most of the site will go back to normal on the 14th. A 2 day protest only tells them that the users will accept any change they make with only minimal whining.
Most of the participating subreddits have said they'll continue the blackout if needed.
And if that continues long enough, and it does begin to effect their revenue, they will intervene and replace mods and re-open them. The only real solution is to leave and move on from it.
I agree, although the process of replacing mods will be pretty messy. You might have to do that for 1000's of subs. A reddit employee is going to go through each one, kick off the old mods, set it to public, and recruit new mods? That's a long winded process to do it at scale.
I think in reality there won't be that many subs that stay dark permanently, but even if a handful of bigger subs hold out, it will be a shitshow.
Reddit won't really be the same again...
Just like how everyone claimed they’d cancel Netflix but then signed up and made a new account when they blocked account sharing. People in aggregate are idiots.
What a dick, I hope people press on and not go back to business as usual.
As will Reddit.
I tell Reddit CEO I'm not going back on reddit and I'll push lemmy as much as legally allowed
It’s settled then.
Tbh, while a few days ago I was hoping it would all blow over eventually and reddit would come to their senses.
But now I kinda like it here. It’s a little rough around the edges, but we will smooth it over together. Today was the first time where I actually thought “damn, what if reddit does return back to normal? I’m not even sure I want it to.”
Oh well, imma stay here ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Does it drop the arm here too? Or done just for old time sake?
it wasn't on purpose haha. it's just the way markdown formatting interprets backslashes
What are they shipping if not our content?
The only reason I'll go back is to preach the good news about lemmy.
Shadow ban coming your way in 5, 4, 3...
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759674/reddit-mods-blackout-protest-extended-indefinitely
more than 300 subreddits had committed to staying dark indefinitely, SpicyThunder335 said. The list included some hugely popular subreddits, like r/aww (more than 34 million subscribers), r/music (more than 32 million subscribers), and r/videos (more than 26 million subscribers). Even r/nba committed to an indefinite timeframe at arguably the most important time of the NBA season. But SpicyThunder335 invited moderators to share pledges to keep the protests going, and the commitments are rolling in.
spez is playing his hand too soon. If he's trying to play this down as a bit of noise that will pass, then it's just a signal to keep it going.
I don´t think anyone was expecting Reddit to shutdown forever, but hopefully with this changes some people move over to Lemmy to create new communities or migrate existing ones
please be mindful of wearing Reddit gear in public. Some folks are really upset, and we don’t want you to be the object of their frustrations.
sigh. That feels like he's angling at being the victim here and trying to pull his staff along with him.