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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (5 children)

F1 wants US $s for their stock

F1 wants US eyes on their races

F1 wants 3 US races

F1 doesn't want a 2nd US team

[–] Ruscal@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Tbh I don't count Haas as a US team. They are based in Europe and besides being "Haas" they don't have anything American.

[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All their admin side of things are based in Charlotte in the US.

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but none of their sporting side are based in the States.

[–] evanuggetpi@lemmy.nz 9 points 9 months ago

It's ludicrous.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The teams don't want to share the price pool

Great sportsmanship demonstrated by the teams!

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

They even patented branding for a Chicago GP, so maybe 4 US races in the near future…

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's Europe's nobility's sense of cultural superiority at its peak. Toto Wolff's comments on the matter sealed it shut, as far as I'm concerned. I have to wonder; if a European team wanted to come in as the eleventh outfit on the grid, would their application have been approved?

[–] TheMalWare@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bullshit lol, it's dollars and cents pure and simple. No team is joining, american or otherwise.

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Maybe I'm wrong. It's just a discussion starter.

[–] jalda@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago

Ah yes, teams as valuable as FIRST-Judd Racing, true legends of motorsport

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago
  1. F1 has lost its way
  2. The teams are too greedy for that sponsorship money so they block competitors
  3. F1 is too expensive. They need to massively LOWER the budget, stop the revenue sharing and double the number of teams.

Also get rid of the stupid hybrid and go back to V8 or V10. Tone down the emphasis on aero and make cars that are raceable without all the aero tricks.

F1 is boring. I only watch old F1, pre hybrid days and nothing else.

[–] regul@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

What's the shortest start/finish straight on the calendar? The only real limit to the number of teams in my mind comes purely from how much longer the cars are that at a certain point the grid has to wrap around the final turn. I don't think we're anywhere near that on any of the current tracks, though.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, in order to gain grade 1 status a track must have capacity for 12 teams

[–] regul@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

who needs that when you can just spin up a street circuit anywhere

[–] Octavius@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh we totally had that in Vegas last year.

[–] regul@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Microw@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We used to have pre-qualifying for situations like that

F1 is much too expensive for teams to be able to afford to show up and not qualify for a race

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Is there any particular reason or regulation why the F1 races couldn't use a running start like other categories? Where everyone departs from the pits at fixed intervals and then the race starts after a 0 lap. Is the grid start from standstill mandatory?

[–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Standing starts are almost as integral to the identity of F1 as open wheels are. Right or wrong, F1 is almost certainly never going to switch to rolling starts.

[–] regul@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Presumably you'd get less wheel-to-wheel racing, and considering that most recent rule changes have been in pursuit of more of that, it seems unlikely they'd take a course that resulted in less.

Yeah, the first two or three laps are where the most passing happens and the cars generally set into a groove from there

Spec series like Indy and F2 keep the cars closer together for the entire race so there's action throughout

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Rolling starts are lame. I don’t know why you’d want to do that.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I don't particularly want it one way or the other. I was genuinely asking since I don't know a lot about the sport. I find it all boring and lame regardless but I'm open to learn and appreciate. But nobody seems to fucking know or care enough to answer the question. And just down votes, I suppose out of an imaginary insult or slight implied by the question.