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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 34 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He’s probably in for a shock when he leaves the safety of his home state voters.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Yeah. A man who is hated by both parties outside of WV thinks he can win the presidency? As an independent?!

Manchin, you are no Teddy Roosevelt.

[–] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago

Teddy Roosevelt shat bigger than Joe Manchin

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

He would be more likely to upend trump. Maybe Manchin will finally officially switch parties.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 7 points 9 months ago

Not just outside.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

From whom Manchin will win votes is actually pretty interesting. In a race where most voters seem to vote against one person, instead of for, a third candidate could get a chance ... if said candidate wasn't the most universally unliked person on the hill next to Rafael Cruz.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Haven't read the article, but Manchin is running as a third party candidate? So now the choice is between two traitorous old geezers and a blander than mayo, even older, geezer?

Did you really spend all your "we can do it" energy on Obama? Can't you come up with a viable candidate with DOB in the latter half of the 20th century?

Manchin is pretty much hated everywhere, but Biden isn't exactly well liked either... Then again there's a large part of the GOP base that loathes Trump. So for everyone but the MAGAts it's a matter of whom you hate the least. WTF America?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 31 points 9 months ago

Translation. Joe thinks that rich donors are afraid of Biden getting a veto proof majority in November. If he can get a few fat cats interested, he can raise enough to retire comfortably.

[–] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Isn't CNN one of Rupurt Murdoch's family of propaganda machines these days?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

No, the Murdoch family is:

Fox News
Sky News Australia
Wall Street Journal
Harper Collins
New York Post

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/083115/how-rupert-murdoch-became-media-tycoon.asp

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

CNNs two biggest shareholders (only double digit % holders) are T Rowe price and Vanguard. Blackrock does have a close to 5%. And John Malone is a person of heavy involvement and is on their board of directors.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Biden needs to get Manchin’s balls in a proverbial vise and explain what happens when you don’t have party loyalty.

Also needs to give abott the same treatment, but more just…. Loyalty in general…you know what mean.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Party loyalty is expected only from voters.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Manchin is technically a voter too

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the only Democrat he votes for is himself. He's the perfect centrist Democrat.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Biden needs to get Manchin’s balls in a proverbial vise and explain what happens when you don’t have party loyalty

Scratch "proverbial", and add a blowtorch somewhere in the mix. Screw explaining, it's time to set an example.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Privately, the West Virginia Democrat has told people that a Joe Biden health scare or a Donald Trump conviction could give him an opening to run as an independent this year.

The group has set a mid-March deadline to decide whether to back a presidential “unity ticket,” but with about a month and half to go and amid internal turmoil, multiple top No Labels leaders tell CNN they remain in the dark about the path forward.

But they know that a Democratic senator traveling the county warning that Biden has been pulled too far to the political left would be a problem, particularly as the president and his aides try to stitch back their 2020 coalition that ranged from Sanders supporters to anti-Trump Republicans.

Larry Hogan, the Republican former governor of Maryland, quit the No Labels board last month over frustration that power and information were being hoarded by group leadership – and not to, as reported elsewhere, clear the way for a presidential run of his own.

All of this is rooted in polling about Americans being generally dissatisfied with their existing 2024 options compiled by Mark Penn, the husband of No Labels founder and CEO Nancy Jacobson, who is seen as perhaps the one who could decide the answers to the outstanding questions.

On his trip earlier this month, the signs he was pointing to were for Americans Together, the new group started by his daughter, Heather Bresch, the former CEO of pharmaceutical giant Mylan, who has been hitting up the same donor base of largely business types who bemoan the state of politics over rounds at their high-priced clubs.


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