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[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Biologically, tomatoes are fruit. Culinarily, tomatoes are vegetables.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Vocally, they're baritones.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Ideally they are makeshift weed pipes

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, even in a culinary sense, tomatoes are way too acidic to lump in with vegetables imo. The textures are totally different from veggies too

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which veggies? Eggplant, zucchini, and potatoes all have very different textures.

The difference is in flavor. Veggies are savory and fruits are sweet.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

First, eggplants and zucchini are fruits too, and both are sweet, just not banana-sweet (in fact, try zucchini bread if you haven't - best shit ever). Second, many veggies are sweet, like carrots, onions (though it's masked until cooked), and ...uh... sweet potatoes. Third, good tomatoes are absolutely sweet, not like candy but especially the little salad tomatoes aren't very far removed from a grape, which I think we agree are a fruit. Then there's olives, that bizarrely savory, dark fruit. They're delicious but I'm pretty sure they're from another planet.

So overall I think, if we're going to go by flavor, then imo acidity is the least ambiguous differentiator. Still not perfect, I'd rather just call it a fruit if it has seeds and isn't a pod. I'll give it to you on texture though

[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't think vegetable sounds right either. No one crushes up broccoli or carrots to make sauce for pizza and you don't add tomatoes to your roast veggies.

[–] poopsmith@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

People put carrots in pizza sauce, like Rao's: https://www.raos.com/products/pizza-sauce

And roasted tomatoes are great with some peppers and onions.

[–] occhineri@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, thanks nature for not adequately distinguishing between fruits and vegetables by cooking techniques!

Sometimes, you can be such a cunt, nature.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] poopsmith@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yup, but also a vegetable.

[–] Pepsi@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)
[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago

I love playing around with recipes so have indeed made broc and carrot sauces, but this is kind of all about what feels right to say. And I think that there's a lot of cases where it feels wrong to describe tomato as a vegetable. Kind of how I'd feel odd calling lettuce a vegetable.

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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ones a culinary term, the other is a biology term.

[–] Eagle0600@yiffit.net 7 points 9 months ago

The problem with the culinary term "vegetable" is that, properly, it applies to any edible part of a plant, and improperly, it's basically a useless distinction.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

do you know how this meme or bell curves work? should be the dummy saying vegetable, the majority saying fruit, and the genius (on the right...) saying it's a vegetable

[–] BlueFairyPainter@feddit.de 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Guess we just know different people then

[–] Ixoid@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why would the genius say something wrong like that? Tomatoes are fruit - grows on the vine, contains seeds inside it, fruits regularly without destroying the parent plant.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

shut up nerd!

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The genius would be saying that because the genius understands that when this question is asked, it only makes sense from a culinary viewpoint, not a biological one

[–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If I ever see one of you fuckers put a tomato in a fruit salad I will shit your pants

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago

It's called salsa.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

prosecutors will be violated.

[–] r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Are you going to go shit in their pants?

[–] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Knowledge is knowing tomato is a fruit.

Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

[–] heatiskillingme@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

This is how I always explain the difference between INT and WIS to RPG newbies. It gets the point across really well.

[–] MrCookieRespect@reddthat.com 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Tomatos are a made up by Italians to sell more "tomato" sauce.

[–] BlueFairyPainter@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

I see the image must have been cropped off to the right

[–] dfc09@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've always heard it's intelligence that tells us tomatoes are fruit, but wisdom tells to use it like a vegetable in cooking

[–] woobie@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I always heard it as intelligence tells us tomatoes are fruit, wisdom tells us not to use it in a fruit salad.

[–] fkn@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Salsa is a fruit salad.

[–] woodgen@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

The left one should say "fruits", while the right one should say "fruit"

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

ahem different models for different circumstances.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Errbuddy wanna talk about tomatoes but the real question is, are bananas fruit? Some varietals are sweet and clearly belong in desserts and fruit salads, some are savory and starchy like potatoes, depending on the culinary tradition you come from they're used in both contexts, and they can and should have seeds but they don't due to selective breeding. Tomatoes exist in an ambiguous state, but bananas are somehow both at all times.

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bananas are technically berries, which makes them a fruit. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone think of a banana as a non-fruit before

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Plantains are bananas (same species, different varietals) and in many cultures are used in savory contexts

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah, I forgot about those. Funnily enough, here in Spain bananas are plátanos and plantains are bananas

[–] rasensprenger@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

The effective vibe is much more important than any underlying biology.

Tomatoes are vegetables.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Vegetables" makes no sense.

Tomatoes, grapes, apples, cucumber, pumpkin, eggplant, mushrooms, all fruits.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I was with you until mushrooms, those ain't even plants

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We are talking about "fruits" here which isnt even a term used to describe plants. Maybe in english, not in german.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago

mushrooms are not fruits in any sense. Fruiting body is applied colloquially however since spores are not fruits this is also incorrect.

However much like with calling a tomato a fruit, it's perfectly clear to call the penis loo lookin' thing a fruiting body and only derranged pedants are bothered by it.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Fruits are a specific part of the plant, the seed-bearing part (pods and ferns are the exceptions, I guess). Veggies are the rest of the plant. Mushrooms are fungi's and all, don't get me wrong, but they're not plants

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Technically a fruit, taste like a vegetable.

[–] bul@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I argue anyone who doesn't think tomatoes taste like fruit hasn't had a real tomato yet

[–] Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

All fruits are vegetables, so everyone is right.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

People who argue that something is a fruit don't understand what a vegetable is

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