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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 100 points 5 months ago (7 children)

those tables usually are wrong or misleading, i don't like them.

Edge for example has the 3rd party cookie blocking and it works ok, so why it's "no" and not "somewhat" or similar?

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I dont see the line "3rd party cookie blocking"

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

should be "prevent sites from tracking". Or they carefully chose that sentence in order to give a "no" to edge and "somewhat" to chrome and opera

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 months ago

Firefox uses a built-in domain blocklist for tracking protection, in addition to blocking third party cookies

Although that would not explain why Chrome and Opera pass that at all to begin with IMO. Maybe these browsers enforce their own additional data silos or other deviations from specs when in Private Browsing mode. I know Chrome for example shrinks the storage provision for various JS APIs down to practically nothing when in Incognito mode, which can break things like Teams Web etc when you start sharing files.

Either way though all marketing ever is, is just a selection of carefully chosen words. In this case, browsers too, as there's no Brave there (I'm not a fan of Brave anyway, but worth noting)

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

Precisely why these "feature comparisons" are bogus.

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[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

The 'Enforce users choice' is just GPC on by default I believe. Which means nothing since it is still voluntary.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah I’m confused about what tracking Chrome blocks that Chredge does not.

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[–] Nimfi@beehaw.org 54 points 5 months ago (2 children)

i'm the bestest browser guys, i swear. source: trust me bro.

(I use firefox before y'all come for my neck)

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 months ago

We Dutchies had a commercial like that.

Loosely translated: "We from WC duck recommend WC duck products."

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago

Its kind of like Simplex Chat claiming to be more secure and private than everything else. (Solid platform though)

[–] elgordio@kbin.social 50 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Safari needs a tick in β€œcopy urls without site tracking” since ios17 and macOS Sonoma

https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/remove-tracking-information-urls-safari/

[–] Kuro@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Copy without tracking has been hit or miss for me on Firefox

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I just gave up and went back to using ClearURLs add-on. Nothing else seems to work as reliably, not even adding rules to uBO.

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[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 43 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I think this is a shitpost of the highest order. If this appears to everyone (?) it adds nothing, and the crappy table is just astonishingly blatant cherry-picking.

That's how all these tables are. If a vendor presents a table comparing themselves to competitors, it's going to be cherry picked.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 12 points 5 months ago

I think it's a work of love. :)

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[–] Walop@sopuli.xyz 25 points 5 months ago

I like using Firefox, but it's a bit ironic to have google analytics tracking on the page you declare to protect the users privacy.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

I didn't get that but I guess because I have a plugin to give me nice backgrounds on new tabs.

But yeah, shots fired. Nice!

The only issue is that only already existing Firefox users see this, and we already know this.

[–] TeaEarlGrayHot@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

They need to add a row for ~~"Owned by a foreign superpower"~~"Owned by the Chinese government" and a check for Opera.

[–] svgeesus@mastodon.social 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)

@DannyMac @Napain They are all owned by foreign powers.
Oh, your definition of "foreign" is non-US?

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Everyone knows the world is divided into:

  • United States
  • Everyone Else
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

How is Mozilla owned by the US government?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On one hand, yeah. On the other hand, that could be a point in its favor, depending on your threat model. After all, if you're American, China can't prosecute you for secrets it learns from Opera the way the FBI could prosecute you for secrets it learns from Google.

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[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 months ago

Literally every single entry is owned by a foreign superpower.

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[–] PoliticalCustard@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 months ago (13 children)

Of these type of browser privacy comparisons the best I have found so far is https://privacytests.org/

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[–] CynicusRex@kbin.social 6 points 5 months ago (25 children)

Conveniently excluding Vivaldi browser.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They included the biggest browsers. They don't need to include every single browser in existence.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I know, right? Where's my entry for lynx, dang it?!

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[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Feel free to test your fingerprinting resistance on a stock Firefox-install. https://www.amiunique.org/

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