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[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 115 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 65 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Everyone complains about Biden's age, but this guy actually tries to primary him and it gets a collective yawn from everyone.

I wish Biden weren't super old, but throwing our weight behind anyone but the incumbent just seems like a bad idea to me.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Only republicans yell about Biden’s age. Everyone who’s not braindead repube cares more about democracy vs fascism than someone’s age.

[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I care a lot about bidens age, actually, I just care that he isn't trump a lot more.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also, if Biden's age is a factor, then Trump's age has to be a factor too. Trump is 4 years younger than Biden. That's nothing at their age. It would be like me saying that I'm 48 and a friend of mine is 50. All other things being equal, there would be little to no difference between us at our ages.

Of course, all other things aren't equal. Trump has demonstrated some worrying signs of cognitive decline. For example, claiming that he's running against Obama or claiming that he beat Obama in 2016. Yet the media seems to keep dismissing that as "Trump says weird stuff all the time." But if Biden has the tiniest slip-up, they'll scream "DEMENTIA" for weeks.

To me, there's another factor too. Let's say that either Trump or Biden, after winning in 2024, would have a major medical event and would be propped up Weekend At Bernie's style. For whatever reason, they'll still appear to be President, but the administration would actually run the show. Which administration would you want running things? Biden's or Trump's likely administration?

It's not even close in my book.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Seriously... Listen to Biden's recent interview on Conan O'Brien's podcast. He was surprisingly lucid, and I was very impressed by how he handled himself.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Don't vote for the 81 year old guy. Vote for the 77 year old young guy!

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (14 children)

It's not just his age. I don't like Biden as a candidate or as a president. I want to vote for someone more progressive, and I wish he were a stronger competitor who guaranteed a victory. He is supremely beatable in November.

But hes the incumbent president, and there's no other Democrat who would be a better choice. Unless he dies or is otherwise incapacitated, he will be the nominee, and he's the best chance at keeping Trump, or any conservative, out of office.

This guy in New Hampshire, I've already forgotten his name and it's literally only a short scroll away, he isn't a serious contender. I don't care what he does because it is irrelevant.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't like him much, but he's a better president than I thought he would be. He's actually moved us down a more progressive path than I expected, especially considering he's had to fight every step of the way. He just never promotes any of it for some reason. The Inflation Reduction Act was a pretty good start on rebuilding our infrastructure even if the climate change goals were torpedoed by Manchin and even though Biden couldn't go as far as he wanted with his American Rescue Plan. He's been filling the federal courts with left-wing judges. He's done a huge amount to repair our international reputation after Trump threw it in the trash (although we'll see if that's still true considering Biden's Israel stance). He allowed Medicare to negotiate drug prices, which lowered the cost of insulin for millions of Americans. He got a ton of people's student loans forgiven, although not nearly as many as he wanted.

Do I wish we had an even better president? Absolutely. But he has been better than I expected and he has never had enough of congress on his side to get his agenda passed anywhere near the way he wanted it.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Build Back Better is the single largest investment in green infrastructure by any nation anywhere.

I want more, but I don't know that a more progressive president could have done better in this environment.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

it's tax incentives for things those corporations were going to do anyhow.

you can see where biden really is on climate, with his actions pertaining to oil. His presidency has seen more oil released from the national stockpile than all others combined, he took the positive action of personally authorizing the Willow Project in alaska (drilling on national lands); and he's authorized increased production elsewhere.

also "this environment" was democratic control of both houses of congress (albeit with really narrow margins)

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[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The best way to get more left leaning candidates is to move the Overton window left by destroying the repubs at the polls time after time.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Right. This isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. One of the most frustrating things I've seen progressives do is not get everything they want and then rage quit politics without realizing that this is even worse than only getting some of what you want.

In one respect, I wish progressives could be more like Republicans. After Roe v Wade, Republicans didn't rage quit politics. They pushed for abortion bans, lost, tried again, lost, and repeated until they got some small concession. Then they used that to slowly, over 50 years, build until they overturned Roe.

Now, obviously, I disagree with their goals. However, I can admire the long term effort put into this. If progressives could do this (with much better goals, of course), we might be able to do some amazing things. Yes, it would be slow at first and that can be frustrating, but imagine if we could have a country 30-50 years from now as far to the left as the Republicans are to the right (but much more sane).

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[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I mean, I don't want biden, but Phillips is basically just biden except young, basically every policy he has the same or worse position as biden.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Well, at least he tried 😄 second winner 😄

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Glad I'm not the only one, apparently all of new Hampshire as well.

[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 8 points 10 months ago
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[–] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

His girlfriend would've been there, but she goes to another school

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In Canada, you don't know her, but he has a pic proving that she is real! :-D

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[–] FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

You're thinking of Tom Scott.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

"Government Repair Truck Coffee Conversations"

WTF does that even mean? Maybe that's part of the problem?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

I feel like there's a hyphen missing.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Conversations over coffee with the driver of the government repair truck.

It’s so convoluted of a way to say I am going to fix the government and would like to hear from you on how

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[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (8 children)

It was literally like the first really cold day after the first decent snow storm this winter in New England, and it's a weekday. I wouldn't have gone even if I knew who the hell he is.

The primary candidate has already been chosen for the Democrats. Biden is probably the only candidate that stands a chance against Trump which is pretty fucking sad.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He's the only one who stands a chance because he's effectively demanding the nomination (not an unusual stance from the party's incumbent). Any prominent Democrat could beat Trump, and probably more reliably than Biden given the polling and his unfavorables, but no one of stature will challenge Biden and risk splitting the party. Biden is not our best chance, but he's the only chance we're going to get.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Here's his platform if anybody wants to read it. I took a brief look and he doesn't look materially different from Biden. And Biden at least knows to cancel an event when it's 20 degrees and the roads are still being plowed. I hope.

I think the big problem in America is that we don't know what better even looks like anymore. Yeah, I could work and fight and donate and call and text for Dean Philips and I'll get more of the same. Or we might get worse, because Trump can at least draw flies.

The system is broken, and we all feel it.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even more people know who Cenk Uygur is.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cheese@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago

outside

amazing planning

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago
[–] Blackout@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

They probably all went to Old Hampshire by mistake

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