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Climate change will create food and water scarcity. Their life or yours.

Idk man. I've been having some huge existential crisis lately and climate change and destruction is just flooding my brain.

Anyone else or just me?

If you're not white, straight, and a guy, I'd also recommend updating your passports and maybe arming yourselves. It's gonna be a bumpy year.

Someone made a laundry list of evidence demonstrating it'll very likely be an actual thing but I can't find it anywhere. When I do, I'll post it

In the Weimar Republic, the Nazis never got more than something like 30% of the vote. Fascist "loud minorities" are still incredibly dangerous.

People angry about the 2020 election were a loud minority

That loud minority came very close to putting the lives of elected representatives at risk.

That's what a modern civil war will look like.

Have you read CIA reports?

Flash pogroms and terrorism. Sometimes by law enforcement. In other words, not a stand up fight, but a bug hunt.

Furthermore, the American Civil War was precluded by several decades of escalating tension between the states, not between parties in the federal government. The legal and organizational attributes of a state also served to enable separatist states to even attempt to raise an army (this was by design). Bubba and his buddies will, as you said, be armed with nerf guns comparatively

Better to take their threat as creditable now than to be surprised later

Democrats too. half the country lost a pretty significant right to their own bodily autonomy that they'd taken foregranted for basically their entire life. and they just... rolled over and took it? that's about the most concrete domestic loss they've taken this century, and more concrete than anything else on the table right now, so i honestly don't know what would have to happen in order for the left to do anything meaningfully violent.

Thank you for giving me justification for buying myself a fire axe!

What is P25?

The US right now looks like Germany just before they put the Nazi party in power.

Lots of FUD, angry constituents, a faschism-adjacent party on the ballots, and lots of hate.

Too many people are too comfortable to ever get off their asses to do anything more than bitch about it online. It's a very small percentage of people that actually go to rallies and half of those people are middle class white people that have never known real hardship; the kind of people that are surprised when they get pepper sprayed while trying to break into the capitol. There won't be a civil war, but we're definitely on the brink of single party rule.

We're like a bunch of frogs sitting in water that is being slowly brought to a boil, but except for water it's fascism and half the country is okay with it because they think they are "saving the children." The other half think they can stop it. I think that both sides might be delusional.

It sort of is and it isn't, in a lot of ways.

1. Polls have been notoriously unreliable for over a decade now. Part of it is cell phones, part of it is increasing numbers of people feeding false responses, trying to influence the poll.

2. Do that many people really want to vote for Trump? Young people are notoriously leftist, and older people are notoriously conservative, and millennials on down are changing the path to becoming conservative as you become older. Meaning more and more people are leftist or liberal or centrist, and less and less are straight conservative. Trump's comments literally lead to the death of millions of old people during COVID. We have yet to actually see in a major nationwide election whether or not he actually killed a sufficient enough of his own voters to start swaying elections towards the Democrats nationally.

3. Democrats and the media are doing what they always do to the young when they complain that the Democrats aren't doing enough: They'll equivocate it with saying "I'm not going to vote for a Democrat!" which is actually not what most young people are saying as much as they hate that the Democrats are essentially holding their votes hostage by refusing to do better and hitting us over the head with "but if you don't let us half ass it, FASCISTS WILL TAKE OVER" which is some seriously psychologically abusive shit, literally threatening us with fascism if we don't give in to their half ass takes. However, as an old man, I've seen the Democrats do this to the youth and depress their own youth votes for forty years. I literally lived it myself as a youth, over 20 years ago. All they do is talk down to the youth and act like any critique of their policies must mean a vote for the Republicans, not a clear understanding that Republicans are far worse, but that's not an excuse for Democrats to be the milquetoast halfass bullshit party.

So between Democrats shoving their own foot up their own ass like usual, and old people dying by the millions to preventable disease, it could still go either way, even without Russian's trying to subvert the election. As usual, the Democrats are subverting themselves well enough already.

My friend of Jewish descent recently listened to some audio recordings of his grandparents before they fled Germany.

They basically describe similar situations and feeling quite similarly to how he feels today. His wife doesn't like him talking about it, but he's sincere: he feels the need to flee.

I don't blame him one bit.

EDIT: To be clear, his desire to flee has very little to do with his Jewish lineage and more to do with how scary and dangerous the Trump cult is. Him being of Jewish descent is just like a cherry on top for MAGAs who want to abuse others. A bonus.

Aren't you all catching enough bullshit just breathing the crazy fumes wafting over the border?

No, don't. We need to build more homes first and we're already way behind.