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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 75 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's why it's stupid to give incentives to people to vote. I hadn't even heard of 90% of the games up for selection in the awards. But I sure as hell voted on every one, usually just picking a game I'd heard the name of, or one with a cool looking banner.

[–] kuoushi@lemmy.ca 71 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This right here is the exact reason Starfield won most innovative, and the same reason Hogwarts Legacy won best on Steam Deck. People who hadn't played any of the games in the votes only voted on games they had heard of.

[–] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It was weird voting for a best on steam deck without owning a steam deck. Seems like it would have been easy to restrict that one to accounts that have been used on a deck. Same with the VR game vote

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Mind as well limit it to only games in your library than.

Plenty of other ways to play something than for you to physically hold it in you hands. Maybe the played it a vrcade, friends house, rented one, etc.

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

This would cause other problems too. People will mostly vote for more popular games because more people own them… Realistically I don’t think there’s a way to do this that would actually be meaningful. In general I’ve started to place an extreme amount of distrust in ratings for games and movies because realistically I don’t care what the average person thinks of a piece of media… I care what I think, and aggregate measures like that don’t really give you a good impression of that. It seems more useful to find good curators and people with similar tastes (or tastes you understand so you can say “oh they liked this, but I don’t like that kind of stuff as much as them” or “oh they didn’t like this, but that stuff is more my jam than theirs”.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I have a ROG which is effectively a Windows Steam Deck, and I use the Deck compatibility checks to ensure that software will run adequately on the ROG. I actually did play Hogwarts Legacy quite a bit on the ROG during my vacation to the UK.

I wouldn't restrict it to just Deck owners, as there are quite a number of us who own beefy handhelds that are not the Deck. At that point I would change the category to "Great on Handhelds".

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[–] verysoft@kbin.social 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

Steam awards is just popular vote and memes, why did last of us get best soundtrack? Why did rdr2 get labor of love? Why did hogwarts win best on steam deck? Dont take awards seriously, they are just a bit of fun.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

We were supposed to vote?

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[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, the whole user/community aspect of Steam is garbage. Discussion forums are just back and forth fights between people about random things like game issues without anyone trying to solve the actual issue. The screenshots/art whatever section is just softcore porn of the game characters and the main screenshots/art section that covers all games is just a hub for wallpaper engine crap.

The guides section is the worst. Its all just stupid meme shit like "How to start the game" or "how to walk forward".

The workshop section CAN be decent but posters just select all tags for their items so searching by category is useless and there is no rule enforcement to prevent that.

I've been a steam user since the start and have a steam deck. Their linux support is really good but thats it.

Oh and trolls and bullies commenting on your profile just don't seem to ever get banned nomatter what horrific shit they post.

[–] dukepontus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

I think this varies. Different games, different communities.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh and trolls and bullies commenting on your profile just don't seem to ever get banned nomatter what horrific shit they post.

They certainly do if you report them. Losing your community privileges, including the right to change your avatar, is something Valve does to people who violate the community rules. But there is no automatic system. You need to report them.

As for the rest: It's a video game store. Think about how many of the users are children. It's why there are curators and ratings for damn near every submission. They used to even have ratings for the forum topics back before they were integrated into Steam directly; they probably should bring that back.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because a significant portion of people like doing things on the internet in the most inappropriate way possible, in this case voting for the choices that make the least sense for any given category.

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

many aren't old enough to understand "innovative" means simply because they lack the reference material, history of said genre, etc. And yes, trolling is probably a reason like review bombing.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

I hate how there's a pretty glaring typo in the article, and no way to inform the author without setting up an entire account with this website specifically. I get that anonymous comments suck, but I can't even help point out something without a 12 step process.

TL;DR - "But, I think we can all agree, it was exactly anything revolutionary. " should be "wasn't".

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

The YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH guy (you know who I'm talking about) has been busy making fake accounts for votes.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd figured it was that disconnected dev who threw a hissy fit on the general public... or Todd

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Wasn't Bethesda individually responding to/disputing negative Steam reviews? Obviously someone's got a lot of time on their hands over there, wouldn't put it past them to spend a bunch of time manipulating this vote too.

[–] kindenough@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes they where, even to mine.

Sorry you did not enjoy the game, but there are so many ways to enjoy it.

Gaslighting the shit out of it.

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[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I do not know who you are talking about.

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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago

I have no idea who you're talking about...

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Starfield is innovated in that it took me almost 18 hours of on and off game play over a couple months before I was actually interested in it enough to actually think about it. By that point I would have normally just tossed it over to the mothball drive and never thought about it again

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same, but I also I spent an additional week obsessively installing and trying different mods, until I finally came to the conclusion that none of them would actually make the game fun to play.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

With no creation kit, the mods are super limited. I'm guessing once that releases, there will be a lot more options that might make it worth a replay. I'd like to see something that makes building outposts worthwhile, and maybe some companions that aren't all the same personality. That said, if I ever do replay it, it'll be in a few years. It wasn't interesting enough to want to jump right back in.

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[–] Skua@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How'd you end up putting 18 hours in in the first place without being interested?

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I have played all the bethesda games since Morrowind (I even beat that!) except Fallout 76 or whatever it was called. I figured it had to have something going for it. I would play for an hour here and there and just be like meh. I am still kinda meh on it but at least I have some understanding of the path the main story wants to drive me in now... It's a shit story but I figured I will do the main story and see how I feel about the game. As it is, the main story is barely enough to keep me coming back. Also my friend spoiled a major plot point for me and I want to see how that comes about (main character death or something haha)

[–] Skua@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That makes sense. Glad you got something out of it in the end. I've long been a fan of the Elder Scrolls games and was cautiously optimistic about Starfield, liked the gritty but optimistic aesthetic and the idea of going out to find the little side stories that made me love the Elder Scrolls games. Looks like I might need to keep waiting a bit though

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago

From what I can tell, it's difficult to actually make a choice in Starfield. It's like you can do something or choose not to but any shades of choice are very dim.

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's easy, it's the Internet and it's full of trolls.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right? The community reaction will be a riot if Bethesda tries to use the award in advertisements.

Of course a better question is why it was even nominated in the first place...

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Steam users are doing the nominations as well.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

So the nomination was bulk trolling as well? I guess that's the only way it makes sense.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The real question is; why was starfield an option to begin with? Same with RDR2, who comes up with the "ballots"?

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's just trolling like any other thing where people can vote

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[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Dammit, Beth paid for their award, so they'll get one, even if the category we need to squeeze it in is most innovative gameplay!

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