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[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 116 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Makes me happy that 2 million people felt comfortable enough to be openly LGBTQ+ small steps, but it’s a positive direction

[–] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Another successful recruitment drive! /s

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Toaster ovens all around!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it turns out a lot of people are queer and just thought they were weird or the only one or were ashamed to acknowledge it

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I identify as the plus symbol in LGBTQ+. My sexuality is EXTRA. Sign me up for some Algebra.

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

As the Dean says, “gay doesn’t even BEGIN to cover it.”

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

"This better not awaken anything in me..."

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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 61 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm more likely to believe that they aren't living in hiding any more. The chemical castration of a war hero doesn't exactly give one the confidence to believe they could safely be open and proud.

[–] PurpleTentacle@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah, can't be it. It's probably the chemicals the deep state cabal is putting in the water to turn the frogs gay.

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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Goddamnit. These gays need to stop fuckin and making so many babies.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

We can just start telling people that "the gay" is contagious with numbers like these. We should have said this during the pandemic to get all the religious redneck nutters to put on a mask.

(Sigh. It would have been funny at first, but it would be harmful in the long run, unfortunately. It would go from a joke to yet-another harmful myth that never dies.)

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I’m pretty sure a good chunk of them already think that.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago (6 children)

It didn't grow lol, it's always been there. Does Yahoo think people suddenly started becoming gay?

[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do you think everyone who is gay has already come out?

[–] Alto@kbin.social 25 points 10 months ago

Of course not, they're simply pointing out how the title is misleading. Obviously more people being able to feel comfortable enough to come out is a good thing, but that doesn't change the number of gay people in the world.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'd be amazed if that were the case

[–] pingveno@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it's just a bad headline.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Probably could have chosen different terminology but "grows" doesn't necessarily mean more people became gay, it could just mean that more people openly identified that way.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Sure, there's just better ways to phrase it is all

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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 49 points 10 months ago

As a straight guy I see this as pretty good news. It means more people are comfortable being themselves rather than what some church tells them they have to be. I'm sure in reality those numbers are even higher, but there's still a lot of people who can't/won't admit it because of religious dogma.

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

I have to mock the headline which misses the point that people feel safer or realize that they are OK.
I am older, but this fabulously captures the point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNeq2Utm0nU

[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Republicans be like: "they are making us all gay!!"

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Chuymatt@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

Wait a sec…

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Don't get us wet, especially when feeding us after midnight!

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Grows"

If there's always been 10 million dollars in the basement wall and you find 2 million of it... That just means that you now know about more of the money, AND there's still A LOT hidden that you still don't know about. It's always been there, you're just now able to count more of it. The amount of money hasn't really "grown" though.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's interesting that this is based on 2020 numbers. The last 3 years have seen a huge wave of hatred and escalating real world violence against queer people of all sorts. More anti-lgbt political actions have been taken in the last 3 years in America than I can remember at all before then. This wave coinciding with a rise in people identifying as LGBT makes me wonder if, unintentionally, this has been driving a boom in a wider understanding of LGBT people and education of LGBT rights.

I feel like more people are aware of who queer people are and what it means to be gay or bi or trans or ace than ever before. Awareness has spread nearly globally, and there is a growing public opinion, especially among young people, that queer identity should be celebrated. It's shocking to see the growth in such plain numbers because the hate campaigns against us obfuscate just how much public acceptance of queer people has grown over the last 5 years. This, in turn, has caused fascists to adopt the narrative that queer people are taking over society, justifying itself in part on how much more common queer acceptance has become.

It makes me feel a sort of cautious optimism. Like inevitably more and more otherwise neutral cishet people are seeing queerphobia and anti-LGBT rights movements as wrong. The association of anti-LGBT movements with MAGA and open fascism and fascists like Ron DeSantis may be to some extent making more people pro-LGBT rights. As there are more openly queer people, thusly more people know someone who is queer than ever before. I think that is also probably encouraging more people to openly be themselves and live openly as LGBT people. I think there is some cause for hope that the combination of these various factors may be early indicators of a drastic shift in Western public opinion. Whether or not that will pan out to genuine political change is impossible to tell. For the time being LGBT rights are still very much under attack, with little signs of the Republicans (and all other conservatives and fascists) changing their agenda.

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[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most of this growth is in the bisexual demographic who are still severely undercounted. Not sure what this data says but bisexual men frequently self report at lower levels than gay men. Internalized homophobia really does a number on folks.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Can imagine that bisexual erasure doesn’t do any favours.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I see a lot of new faces here today.

And that means a lot of you are breaking the first two rules of Gay Club.

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  1. Don't be new

  2. Don't show your face

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 10 months ago

I literally hurt my sides laughing at this. Thank you 🤣

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The Republicans should embrace LGBTQ+ people's of the world...err the USA, US gays first lol. Here's the reason: gay people will never need an abortion! Not only that, but hey if you got an unwanted fetus, sure let it be born and we'll take it from there!

It's a win win situation while women are screwed just like the Republicans love it. But at least the women's role ends right after they give birth to whatever citize might have been stuck in there for 9 months.

Ofcourse I am being sarcastic about women. But if the Republicans really want all those deformed and rape babies born, well I suppose there's a population who would be able to take care of them.

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You severely underestimate the power of religious dogma over a ton of people. A shit ton of people will forever be anti LGBTQ+ because they grew up with a religion that told them that it's wrong. No amount of persuasion up to and including their own children coming out will change that.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Their dogma bit my catma so I ran over their dogma... accidentally. It's hard to remove all that dogma red tape. Lots of dogma hairs.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

The one dogma the police won't instantly shoot

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

But then the rape children will grow up to be gay rapists! How will they come close to god then?? /s

Oh, wait

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

Now we just gotta figure out a way to make republicans care about born humans like they do unborn humans…

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Grabbels@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Finally. The vaccines are working 👀

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No doubt growth in new gays and old gays that are finally coming to terms or feeling safe enough to not hide who they are.

It’s a beautiful thing! Conservative hate rhetoric has no power, LGBTQ have the right to exist and live their lives with the same rights the rest of us have

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Oh god, they're multiplying!

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hoping that also means 2 million new voters.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It likely just means that they’re out of the closet.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

that is fucking insane to me because the real number is already significantly higher than I expected

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