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Russian Women Are Starting to Demand Putin Bring Their Men Home From War in Ukraine
(www.bloomberg.com)
oh man, i wonder how many just dont know
this post was submitted on 22 Dec 2023
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Sorry ladies, they are a little busy growing sunflowers right now.
How nice of them to take up gardening
I don’t think they’re coming home even if (and most likely) dead
Isn’t it like 350k deployed and 315k dead? Those are insane numbers.
Edit: 315k killed and wounded… not sure of the ratio
Afaik, it's 315k casualties, not deaths, which basically means "unable to serve". This includes dead, injured, captured, deserted etc. Also keep in mind that this is an Ukrainian estimate which might be inflated.
The ratio is almost always 3:1 in all cases. And I think the US has corroborated Ukrainian numbers very closely in the past, so it's probably a fair guess that 100k Russians have died.
I thought in Ukraine it was closer to 2:1 due to poor Russian medical training and supplies.
3:1 of 315k is 80k deaths
351k according to today's numbers, crossed 350 two days ago.
Is that always how casualty is defined??? I had no idea
Yes, I recommend checking the Wikipedia article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualty_(person)
TIL. Thanks for the power up!
I remember being surprised when I learned that casualty does not necessarily mean fatality. I think it’s a common misunderstanding.
basically means "unable to serve". This includes dead, injured, captured, deserted etc.
Ah, I didn't know that. I now envision it sometimes going like:
"Poor Steve, a casualty of war."
"What do you mean, he snuck back home and is watching TV in his mom's basement!"
The accuracy of these numbers is always going to be debatable and the true numbers likely never known but this is what Ukraine is saying what Russian losses are like
I can't believe we had a Cold War with those guys.
USSR =/= Russian Federation.
I mean, they both have/had rampant corruption and cronyism, so they aren't actually that different. Russia just stopped pretending to be communist.
I think they are referring to the relative societal priority of maintaining a large modern fighting force. USSR was investing and developing bleeding edge weapons tech. Russia has just been sitting on that same stockpile.
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The Soviet Union included a dozen nations not held by Russia today (one of whom was Ukraine), and Russia has suffered rampant corruption and neglect since the fall of the union 30 years ago
What we had was an excuse to spend unlimited money on weapons, destabilizing anti-business foreign governments, and demonizing unions and social programs.
Putin confirmed 300,000 in a speech about a week ago.
I wouldn't be surprised if he sends those women to the frontline as well.
"But I had a husband!"
"IS CAT NOW!"
Good luck with that. They’re not coming back.
Oh, they will... as sunflowers in the fields of Ukraine.
I heard russians make excellent fertilizer.
Ever.
Nope.
Don't worry, no one is special cuz before long, a decade tops, everyone dies.
This is what happened during their Afghanistan. The women started protesting.
Yep and to try and prevent that this time they drew disproportionate numbers from the arse end of nowhere. Hopefully we hit some kind of tipping point soon.
I think that might be a double edged sword. They aren't central to the country, sure, but being more remote also makes it easier for them to take and hold territory in a rebellion.
As far as I know it's not that they have just now started demanding this, it's that now their demands have been blatantly and openly ignored and handwaved away. The frustration is really high already.
I heard some people believe this to be a tipping point but I am afraid to believe that this will affect anything
we'll know if the tipping point is reached because it'll be violent. This isn't violent
Tipping point: like that tipping point which led to a military coup? Heh. That didn't go anywhere. What happened to them again?
I also don't know what realistically may happen to change things
Even if they came back, they’ll never be the same
I'm pretty sure Putin doesn't have the power to bring back the dead, but wishful thinking tho Russian women.
No husband! Only Khlav Khlash!
What?
It's a fictional kebab-style food from The Simpson's cartoon.
It's a bit salty, what would you recommend to drink?
We have Mountain Dew and Crab Juice.
Good luck with that. Not something Putin wants.
Very sad. Poor oppressed Russian woman cries
Putin: "Niet"
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