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The 18-year-old Lapsus$ hacker who played a critical role in leaking Grand Theft Auto VI footage has been sentenced to life inside a hospital prison, according to a report from the BBC. A British judge ruled on Thursday that Arion Kurtaj is a high risk to the public because he still wants to commit cybercrimes.

In August, a London jury found that Kurtaj carried out cyberattacks against GTA VI developer Rockstar Games and other companies, including Uber and Nvidia. However, since Kurtaj has autism and was deemed unfit to stand trial, the jury was asked to determine whether he committed the acts in question, not whether he did so with criminal intent.

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[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 149 points 10 months ago (14 children)

Life for this seems absolutely insane.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 53 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I don't think the kid will actually serve it out in prison though. The primary issue here seems to be that the kid is actively saying they will commit more crimes. No matter the crime, you can't really give a light sentence to someone telling you, in a court of law, that they will do it again.

The ideal would be that they rehabilitate him until he's able to be safely released with no fear of repeat offense, or at the very least, until the kid is smart enough to lie.

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[–] ExcursionInversion@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

During Thursday’s hearing, the court heard Kurtaj “had been violent while in custody with dozens of reports of injury or property damage,” the BBC reports. A mental health assessment also found that Kurtaj “continued to express the intent to return to cybercrime as soon as possible.” He’s required to stay in the hospital prison for life unless doctors determine that he’s no longer a danger.

Sounds like dude has some stuff to work out mentally

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Rape doesn't get you life. Child molestation doesn't get you life (hell in the UK it's tradition among the government)

Hacking Rockstar and being violent in custody? Yeah. Sure. Life sentence.

Fucking bootlicker.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

It's a mental health "life", not a prison life.

It's only life if doctors do not approve of their release due to potential danger. No sentence has been given to them yet.

They weren't even tried yet this is all because of how they reacted while being detained

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[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well, sure, but does that mean he should get a life sentence?

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago (15 children)

He’s required to stay in the hospital prison for life unless doctors determine that he’s no longer a danger.

These sorts of sentences aren't really "life", they're "life until you're cured."

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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If he's unfit for trial doesn't he wait until he can? That is beyond unjust on every which side unless he is that level of fucked up. What is life like in an NCR-type deal hospital for life?

Is it like a decent group home or where is he being sent to exactly?

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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You might try reading the article you posted then, because it says very plainly:

He’s required to stay in the hospital prison for life unless doctors determine that he’s no longer a danger.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

A danger of commiting cyber crimes. You forgot that part. This could be solved with a probation officer and a restriction on technology use. Instead, he's in a mental hospital. This is ridiculous and a way to weaponize his disability as a warning to others.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Yes.. It's the same sentence criminally insane murderers get.

People pleading insanity and thinking 'they get away with it', has always made me laugh. You might get probation in 20 years but in an asylum, you have no sentence it's just a matter of if the doctors ever agree to release you.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 92 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

The use of "sentenced to life" here is one of the most blatant click/ragebait headlines I've seen in a while. And looking at the comments, people are eating it up.

He has not been sentenced to life. He's in a hospital until deemed fit to release, because he's destroying property, injuring people, and declaring a desire to return to crime.

Yeah, it's funny when it's Rockstar, less so when it's your social media or bank. If he can't bring himself to at least commit to saying he won't do something illegal just to get through court, then his lack of self control speaks to someone who's going to do some shit and wind up arrested again.

If the staff can get him to calm down enough to stand trial, he's out.

Also, remember he was already put on bail once:

A mental health assessment used as part of the sentencing hearing said he "continued to express the intent to return to cyber-crime as soon as possible. He is highly motivated."

The jury was told that while he was on bail for hacking Nvidia and BT/EE and in police protection at a Travelodge hotel, he continued hacking and carried out his most infamous hack.

Despite having his laptop confiscated, Kurtaj managed to breach Rockstar, the company behind GTA, using an Amazon Firestick, his hotel TV and a mobile phone.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

because he’s destroying property,

Hold on while I dig out the world's smallest violin for the property of billionaire parasites.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (6 children)

For real, right? What a wank of a take 😵‍💫

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

Stop trying to introduce logic and reason into a pitchfork led witch hunt.

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[–] Sphks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Although he stayed at a hotel under police protection during this time, Kurtaj still managed to carry out an attack on Rockstar Games by using the room’s included Amazon Fire Stick and a “newly purchased smart phone, keyboard and mouse

Lol. If this was in the plot of a movie, I would say that this is implausible.

[–] gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Jesus. Don't lock this guy up, give him a computer and point him at Russia.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

"Russia wanted us to stop you from playing video games. Go teach them a lesson"

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, that mobile phone is basically just a computer. I could my dayjob from a mobile phone too if I plugged it into dock with mouse, keyboard and a screen. Just a bit inconvenient

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[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 77 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The part I don't get that no-one has mentioned is that Rockstar stated in court that it cost them $5million to recover from the attack. What does that even mean? They spent $5mil on lawyers to recover the video footage? They spent that on upgrading security (which arguably should have been in place already if they could be hacked with a fire stick and a landline). Or have they been selling $5mil less of Shark Cards than they were expecting?

[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think some of these evil corporations just throw up a number and expect people to believe they spent that kind of money.

I don't even buy games at release anymore. I wait for a sale or GOTY edition. I wish people would stop pre-ordering and wait for YouTube reviews and Twitch streams.

I didn't pre-order GTA V and watched it on Twitch. After about 2 weeks, went and bought it on PS3 with money I won from a football pool.

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[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 59 points 10 months ago (2 children)

First off: it’s a hospital until he’s fit to stand trial. Same for the crazy serial killers who can’t comprehend that what they do is wrong.

Second: the dude is autistic and violent without his connection to the internet. He need professional help.

Third: respect where it is due, he was already banned from having a computer, hacked rockstar with a phone and a fire tv stick

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

The NSA is about to buy him his freedom...

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

violent

he was violent while in custody. The article doesn't say anything about any other violence. I think its fair that he was violent towards the people who were violating his rights

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 38 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Jesus, man. He hacked Rockstar with a fire stick and a phone, lol. Put this kid to work hacking enemy governments. Why waste that talent?

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

According to the article he was also found to be extremely violent while in custody, with several reports and issues. A lot of that is likely related to his Autism and should be noted. I also absolutely expect the reports are at least partially exaggerated in their wording.

That said: I do agree. Get the kid some therapy and coping skills and give him a nicely colored hat to choose from.

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[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If they are going to go that way, no one will ever know.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

How could this 18 year old have hacked your government website while locked up in a hospital? Are you admitting your cyber security is that bad?

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Wtf, life in prison because you made a corporation look bad?

[–] blusterydayve26@midwest.social 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Life in hospital because he publicly vowed to keep doing it while his trial was going on. That’s not a smart thing, that’s definitely not a sane thing. You apologize and move on to get out, you double down if you really like the food, white walls, and basic healthcare, or, you know, if you can’t stop yourself from saying so.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

No, he did not get "life".

He's staying in a mental institute until released.

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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Although he stayed at a hotel under police protection during this time, Kurtaj still managed to carry out an attack on Rockstar Games by using the room’s included Amazon Fire Stick and a “newly purchased smart phone, keyboard and mouse,” according to a separate BBC report. Kurtaj was arrested for the final time following the incident.

I say let him out, unconditionally. When you reach this mix of genius and shamelessness, you breach into the territory of art. Rockstar having to pay $5.000.000 in "damages" is a sacrifice I'm willing to have them make.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When you have a kid like this you fucking recruit them to work for the government and let him hack their enemies to his hearts content.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

And you tell the public they're in prison for life.

[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, like what the fuck? He got Rockstar with a goddamn phone and a Firestick? Dude must be a genius.

Sounds like the origin story of a comic book character.

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[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

Life? That's bonkers. For leaking GTA crap? Egad.

Guess a billion dollar company bought the legal system...

Rockstar: 'Lock him up and throw away the key. Also, play our game and go shoot some civilians, cops, and feds in a hacker terrorist bank heist online with friends!'

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The use of "for life" here is extremely misleading and rage baiting. People around here shit on the media all the time, but fall for this clickbait hook line and sinker.

He's not been imprisoned "for life". He's been put in a hospital until deemed fit for release or to stand trial. Because he's literally destroying shit and hurting people/himself.

During Thursday’s hearing, the court heard Kurtaj “had been violent while in custody with dozens of reports of injury or property damage,” the BBC reports. A mental health assessment also found that Kurtaj “continued to express the intent to return to cybercrime as soon as possible.”

And yeah, we all like cybercrime around here when the kid does it to Rockstar, but he can just as easily do more damaging things to regular people, and that's a serious concern. If he can't control himself long enough to get through a trial, then there's no reason to assume he won't do more shit.

[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 6 points 10 months ago

Read the article.

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[–] Gemini24601@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Imagine what the MI6 or CIA could make out of him. He hacked Rockstar using a firestick, imagine what he could do when given the right tools. This is a terrible waste of skill.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah but it makes mega corporations look like the complete idiots that they actually are...the rich can't have their stupidity on clear display like that so they need to punish whoever.

This isn't about their shitty game anymore, they want to attempt to stop other smart individuals from again showing the world that this giant companies shouldn't exist and how utterly pathetic they are when it comes to security

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[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So this was the kid that committed the cybercrime using a fire stick while out on bail due to other cybercrime. And in this process he shows no remorse to stop doing cyber crime. And the doctors of this lifetime prison hospital get discretion on when to release him if he shows remorse? Administrative medical prison sentencing is usually fucked up and unfair, but it sounds like this kid has a path forward to eventually get released.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What the FUCK?!

this is fucking alarming.

"This kid is super smart and managed to get somewhere he wasn't supposed to be. The people protecting that place have billions of dollars, so this kid must suffer. What he didn't was kind of illegal but no one got hurt except the billionaires who want him to suffer. Well, they didn't measurably get hurt, they just are upset about it. What do you say? Life in the Looney bin?"

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That's a very distorted description of what's actually happening. The person (he's 18 so no longer really a "kid") had been violent while in custody with dozens of reports of injury or property damage, and continued to express the intent to return to cybercrime as soon as possible. Furthermore, the "life" sentence is only until the doctors think he's no longer a danger. It sounds like this guy is a real piece of work and the sentence is rooted in the goals of rehabilitation and protecting the public rather than some kind of retribution.

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[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Is he gonna be able to play the game in the hospital?

[–] Uncle_sure@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

The BBC article has more details why judge rule to isolate this young man https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67663128

The hackers sent out threatening text messages to 26,000 EE customers

... Another Lapsus$ member, who is 17 and cannot be named because of his age, was found guilty in the same trial, which lasted six weeks at Southwark Crown Court.

He worked with Kurtaj and other members of Lapsus$ to hack tech giant Nvidia and phone company BT/EE and steal data before demanding a four million dollar ransom, which was not paid.

They also stole directly from individuals through their cryptocurrency wallets.

.... As well as hacking offences the boy was sentenced for what the judge described as "unpleasant and frightening pattern of stalking and harassment" of two young women.

... The gang - thought to mostly be teenagers - used con-man like tricks as well as computer hacking to gain access to multinational corporations such as Microsoft, the technology giant and digital banking group Revolut.

... It is not clear how much money Lapsus$ has made from its cyber-crimes. No companies publicly admitted paying the hackers and the hackers did not provide the passwords to seized cryptocurrency wallets.

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