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[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Thank you, Tux. I will take your advice and create new leftists. Should I tell them about Foss too, or should that wait?

[–] Unreliable@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

Tell them about Arch Linux.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

FOSS is a good way to convert techbros to leftism.

[–] AnarchistsForDemocracy@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How can somebody who can hack into any corporation, think Ayn Rand had anything clever to say?

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Delusions of self-confidence in their skills due to having an in-demand job. Once supply meets demand and their wages fall to the norm, tech bros won't have that insane level of confidence in having "won" Capitalism.

[–] wintermutehal@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gor The Little beans, give them a few, for the 15 and up crowd, lay it on

[–] wintermutehal@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

For the little beans…

[–] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

While I like the sentiment, it's not entirely true.

You can't convince people to change their core beliefs. That's not how deprogramming works anyway. Cult deprogramming starts by asking them to explain and asking questions that let them unravel the problem themselves. Pointing out people's internal contradictions tends to reinforce them, but when they run in to their own contradictions those absurd beliefs tend to unravel.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

questioning their logic is really effective, ask one good question and don't expect an answer. that question will haunt them and make them realize they're probably wrong a few hours/days later.

actually saved someone from the "immigrants bad, pure germans strong" rabbithole.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

actually saved someone from the "immigrants bad, pure germans strong" rabbithole.

I'm curious, how did you do that?

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

long story short, the whole eugenics thing doesn't make sense. the nordics nor the aryans never actually existed.

i asked questions about what seperates them from their neighbour (who may be an immigrant) besides their mother tongue and what group of people they decide they wanna hang out with.

a lot of what we call "race" is just culture IMO. sure, you have slightly darker skin or better hair growth to deal with enviromental things like sand or the sun. but our brains aren't wired much different.

make them question the little things. then the whole picture doesn't make sense anymore. a lot of what they parrot around is still basically what a deranged nazi on drugs thought up to basically pin the blame on "Ausländer".

[–] hexabs@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Inception rules basically

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Good advice from an animal? We could name a community after this.

But let's not.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Suggestion Mammals sounds good.

[–] liztliss@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Only mammals? That rules out this post!

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Suggestions organisms maybe? Who doesn't want tips from a bacteria?

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My highly religious uncle that looks like a literal gnome is the most entertaining one to be around, but only if one can mange to sneak away to smoke weed first. Otherwise it's just a lecture about how everything I'm doing with my life goes against god.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My religious family gave up on the "you're a sinner" lecture after I made it super clear that A) I don't care and B) I'm not going to argue with them about it. If I got mad or tried to fight about it, they LOVED that shit, but being like, "yup!" and throwing some finger pistols their way and they don't really have a response besides telling me to not sin. But they can only keep that up so long when you're like, "oh no doubt, Uncle Fuckface."

I mean, I also don't talk to them anymore so that really solved the problem, but the cheerful agreement that I'm for sure going to hell got me through my teenage years/early 20s. Surprise, I didn't get less queer even after all the lectures!

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

If those kinds of assholes are the ones going to heaven, I'm glad I won't be joining them.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

The 'Lecture' stopped bothering me a while ago for the same reason as you, it's just way more fun to antagonize them about it while high.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 months ago

That's okay, everything he did with his life goes against God, too.

Not that anyone knows what God thinks. Even the Pope has admitted as much.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hard to do that when Grandma is already there with a plate of cookies and a special message from Jesus on how to spot the horrible liberal communist in the room.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

The horrible liberal commie needs to learn to bake cookies. I did. And I've managed to be the person who is making the cookies that everyone is looking forward to.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago

Just be the cool uncle and offer them drugs or robucks.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 22 points 10 months ago

"Mommy, what does 'we shall make no excuses for the terror' mean?"

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Communist Penguins are a pretty good symbol for most of the users on Lemmy. (Or maybe just the most vocal users.)

[–] kirby@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

I use penguin btw

[–] boborhrongar@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 months ago

too late bucko

[–] Kattail_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago

no, please do, it's so fun

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I need advice on how to radicalise 3years old

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They need to learn sandbox rules at that age anyway, and since sandbox rules boil down to:

A) Be nice to everyone

B) Share your toys/the playground with others

C)Having friends is better than having enemies

They'll radicalize themselves for a few minutes at a time till they are about 7, then you'll have to work against the conservative brainwashing. Up till then the kids know what equality means far better than most adults do.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Communism is essentially sandbox rules extrapolated to societies of billions. Though there are case-specific sandbox rules like:

J) In case of emergency, get yourself safe. If you can manage to check on others, get them safe too.
K) Everybody gets a cupcake. If there's not enough cupcakes portion out partials while helping with cupcake production.
L) Do not escalate when someone engages in malicious or hostile behavior, rather gather the community to seek to comfort those harmed and route out underlying problems.
M) SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION! LET THE BOURGEOISIE TREMBLE BEFORE THE REVOLUTION!

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[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

Tell them sharing is caring. Ez pz

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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

That would just give the racist uncle what they want. Fuck that. The racist uncle wants to put you in a low status place like the kids' table so he doesn't have to pretend you're an equal and can regard you as an inferior.

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why do you care what racist uncle thinks though? Is it going to affect anyone in the world other than him?

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I care about calling out that dude's bullshit in front of people he might influence.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because it's not about what racist uncle thinks, it's about what he's doing, but thanks for helping racist uncle by misrepresenting the situation entirely.

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You're not changing what racist uncle is doing or thinking no matter what you do. I deal with racist uncle too, you know. I'm busy radicalizing the kiddos ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] liztliss@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter. Racist uncle is going to die early from a heart attack and those kids are going to be the people in charge when you're needing to be cared for- invest in them.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It matters to me and literally everyone else.

Racist uncle will live to his high 70's, early 80's on average. And you know what he does? He abuses those kids you're trying to radicalize.

And all those kids will do is grow up to resent your iniquities and cowardice for refusing to stand up to racist uncle, because they know you only address them because they are weaker than you and easier for you to influence. Because it's obvious to them you care more about using them as a political tool than about saving them from racist uncle, who molests them whenever he gets a chance. As in a lot. Their dads probably do, too, statistically.

But have fun defending racist uncle, cousin alt-righter. Don't tip your fedora too hard

[–] koraro@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

They said racist uncle and you turned him into racist raping uncle. Those are different and would need different reactions.

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[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Repeat after me kids:

Debout les damnés de la terre, debout les forçats de la faim...

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

La raison tonne en son cratère, C'est l'éruption de la fin.

[–] Masimatutu@mander.xyz 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Du passé faisons table rase, foule esclave, debout, debout!

[–] razm@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Le monde va changer de base shoobidoo wha shoobidoo doo

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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Nah, I don't dine with fascists. I've made that very clear that if fascists are invited to dinner I will not attend, and take it as my family expressing a preference for their company over mine.

I don't have any family members like that, but I do have an aunt who for lack of a better term believes in pretty insane tankie shit, no one talks to her though, technically we don't invite her for christmas, she just kind of shows up and we let her join because she's already there, if it were up to me I wouldn't but my mom doesn't want to do that to her sister (even though they ignore each other the whole time).

[–] unmarketableplushie@pawb.social 7 points 10 months ago

First Dog on the Moon my beloved

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

I'm going into the den of racists this year, wish me luck

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