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This post from @Yujiri@lemmy.ml https://yujiri.xyz/commentary/tiktok sums up my opinion

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[–] Reaton@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago

The core concept is good, it makes me think of Vine. However it's a shitty proprietary spyware. so fuck TikTok.

[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Spyware garbage, I hope it will be just a fad.

[–] Sal@mander.xyz 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

By the time I became aware of its existence it was already massive and I found no appeal in using it, so I never made an account.

Hearing my younger cousins talk about it made me feel like I was finally part of an "older" generation.

[–] marmulak@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

By the time I became aware of its existence it was already massive and I found no appeal in using it, so I never made an account.

Same

[–] starfish@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago

Waste of time.

[–] ksynwa@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably the best song by kesha

[–] Whom@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Take It Off though...

[–] greensand@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I find the app obnoxious, even when it's running smooth (unlike on older devices).

Another toxic Instagram-like bait for everyone superficial & with short attention span.

[–] kromonos@fapsi.be 11 points 2 years ago

It is another cancer for profiling one's own stupidity for the selfish generation who, with no sense of protection on data and privacy of others, are only concerned about stuffing the Internet with their trash.

[–] lunatichacker@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I like it. The content has no substance, but that's a feature. go there only if you enjoy goofy dances or lipsyncing. If you expect political commentary or educational content you'll be disappointed.

And your experience will be much better if you follow your IRL friends.

[–] Farmer_Heck@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I agree with you, but there is a wealth of valuable educational content on the platform. I've learned a lot about animals, ADHD, and gaming history on the app. I don't visit the side of the app that gets spicy with the politics, so I can't say how good the political discourse is on the app, but from the little bit that has made it to my FYP it seems decent enough.

If you're looking for heavy-hitting, well-sourced content, TikTok isn't the place to go. But if you want quick lil snippets of information, it's a wonderful resource.

[–] arun@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I haven't used Tiktok ever, but I hear it's a good destination for fun content. Is there a way to access Tiktok on the desktop, possibly an alternative frontend from the official one? Similar to libreddit for reddit, Bibliogram for Instagram, Whoogle for Google.

[–] lunatichacker@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I have once made an alternative frontend for tiktok to bypass the indian tiktok ban. but I abandoned it because it was too much work to keep it working when they frequently make changes to the api and website. I don't think anyone will be willing to maintain such a mess so there won't be any alt-frontends

[–] SudoDnfDashY@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

Spyware, don't use it.

[–] purplerabbit@forum.purplerabbit.xyz 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To be honest I kinda feel like too many young people are wasting their time on it and not doing more constructive things with their time. Like seriously have you seen young people these days mindlessly scrolling on Instagram/Twitter and watching TikTok all day long? On top of that TikTok is most likely spyware.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I dunno 20 years ago the youth was wasting their time as well... It's not like I like TikTok but I don't think it's their fault

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[–] cber_quaternion@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

It is the same with all other social media. What is the difference between wasting your day in Reddit, wasting your day in Lemmy, wasting your day in DickCock, wasting your day in Twitter

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

The content is really good. It utilize open creative culture. Good political content. Very addictive. Spyware. China controlled.

We should take inspiration from tiktok, because it has some really great features. Duetting, stitching and creating sounds in particular. It is super fun to interact with content creators.

[–] Whom@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

The creative possibilities of the format interest me to a certain degree, but I'm far too privacy-minded and social media-averse to ever use it. I'd consider using a private and FLOSS clone, but that's unlikely to happen.

[–] sacredbirdman@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

I tried it.. realized that the format pretty much precludes anything I'm interested in watching and that was it. Clearly I'm not in the target audience.

[–] Ominukas@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

That it makes people anxious. A lot of people that use Tiktok say that they can't watch a 10 min youtube video because it's too long and that isn't normal. This does't happen only with TikTok but with all social media that gives you constant stimules, Instagram is another one that does this too. And it is spyware btw.

[–] jiaminglimjm@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It lowers the barrier of entry for many new content creators. And does boost some of the previously suppressed voices.

If you are disciplined and learn to tame their algorithm to your will, you can discover many rich cultures in action that you never knew even existed.

[–] BlackLotus@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Agreed 100%. The marginalized voices who I previously never or rarely heard has been invaluable. There is so much to learn from marginalized voices who normally don't have a platform.

That's not to say TikTok is free from problems. It absolutely does fail to protect marginalized voices from things like harassment campaigns. Both from mass reports and hateful comment spamming.

[–] Scrumplex@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

I don't like the implementation. The company seems untrustworthy, especially as we are dealing with many young people using the platform. Social media is harmful to young people, which is why something that's directed at young people can be really dangerous.

[–] gun@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Like others said, TikTok is a good counter to the silicon valley tech monopoly. Any country that stands up to the US sees a campaign of information warfare utilizing the western media. So when these countries block or limit access to western media, they are called totalitarian.

But with TikTok, it was seen as a threat that they talked about banning it in the US, which is just hypocritical. Banning RT was also considered. The truth is America is just as "authoritarian" as those other countries. The difference is, America hasn't had a foreign media that potentially threatens its interests until now.

So I like TikTok as long as I don't have to use it myself. And I dont like seeing that style of content is popping up on YouTube and Instagram as well now.

[–] OhScee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

From my understanding it's spyware. Constantly monitoring and reporting (i've heard even after deleting it too, but i can't confirm)

My main concern is that it seems to be a very convenient outlet for unsavoury characters to reach out to kids

[–] LIESGREEDMISERY@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

It's famous for near-naked woman dancing, so if I use it, people may judge me as something.

But I really don't see the appeal of the platform. Videos are harder to load, I don't always have good internet connection. If I want to watch videos, Invidious has been the best place for me. If I seek friendship, places like mastodon or twitter is fitting well for me.

[–] ArtilectZed@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I don't look at it, but I heard a story on NPR yesterday talking about the #booktok tag, so I guess it's not all bad? Getting people to read more, and some books released years ago are popping back up on top of the NYT best seller list because of it.

[–] arthur@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

A decent platform that doesn't lock you into the application as you can use it with a browser. Not nearly as bad in the privacy department as Facebook but still kinda worrisome.

[–] SusPillow9328@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

TikTok is rotting kids brains and making people dumber with stupid and dangerous challenges like β€œdevious licks”. And the algorithm keeps them addicted with a endless stream of garbage content.

The Chinese government has forced them to restrict how long the app can be used by kids and showing educational content. Other governments need to start doing the same thing.

[–] marmulak@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

One of the worst things ever, from what I gather

[–] chiefstorm@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Both tiktok/facebook encourage conformity, discourage intelligent thought, reward mindless consumption, shortens attention spans. the companies spy on users with impunity, and the software is locked down and impedes the open internet.

There's nothing inherently wrong with a service like this existing. facebook has pioneered this parasitic model, dominated the internet for years, the bar is so low that it cannot possible go lower.

Intelligent families will prohibit their children from unrestricted access to websites like facebook/tiktok/youtube.

All in all, it is a trend and will be replaced, and whatever replaces it will probably be an improvement.

[–] Yujiri@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Whoa, I somehow never got the notification for this! I'll be checking out the comments :)

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I sure as shit don't trust it and put it in the same category of Meta's spyware bullshit like Facebook and Instagram: Actively avoid!