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[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's only on while I'm using it; why waste power to save 20 seconds?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yeah I used to leave my computer on all the time. Then I realized that's really wasteful. I shut it down nightly. I shut it down if I'm going to be away from it for like an hour.

My work laptop on the other hand. I don't know if I should blame docker or macos or what, but I tell it to go sleep and it just won't. I don't want to shut it all down because starting local stuff up again is a mild pain.

[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 8 points 9 months ago

Long gone are the days of turning it on and going to make a cuppa while it booted up.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago

Starting stuff up is all work time, so I don't mind. Especially at home I'm not going to leave my work laptop running, that's my power it's wasting :)

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 26 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Nightly. The heck you guys doin that it needs to be on when you sleep?

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago (11 children)
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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Lemmy: we need to do everything we can for the environment!

Also Lemmy: this thread.

Remember folks, unless your grid is 100% renewables (or split with nuclear), you're consuming coal or gas power. It may not be much on an individual scale, but it adds up. For coal it's approximately 1kg of CO2 per KWh, slightly more for petroleum, and 350g for gas.

Edit: apparently OP is running away from the downvotes. Previously they were calling people idiots, stupid, etc for criticizing them.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

City runs on water power from the river and the apartment building has solar panels on the roof. I keep my computer on 24/7. 😬

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

In my city, our power plants burn our trash! (That's renewable, right?)

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
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[–] Timwi@kbin.social 18 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Even in the 2000s I never understood that fascination for uptime and how it has somehow come to be seen as a badge of honor. What's the purpose of bragging with how much power you're wasting?

[–] mangaskahn@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Also, updates. A long uptime says I haven't updated the kernel/firmware since at least this long.

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[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Zero. Because it's turned off when I'm away from home for more than a few hours or sleeping. It never gets more than 24 hours of uptime, ever.

Even if my home server is turned on 24/7 it still runs a chron job to do a weekly reboot on sunday nights to keep things tidy.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hi, is the reboot on inactivity automated for you? Is there a way to ask the computer to save the current session and shut down if I dont use it for, say, 6 hours?

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

It's called hibernate and there surely is some way to do that. Usually it's available in the system settings

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My PC is off, power is off as well. I never keep my PC running when I'm not using it. I'll power it down and turn off the power on the power brick. It's what I was taught when growing up, and in a time of SSDs I see little downside.

[–] Giu176@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Same, and remember, go to the windows logo and press shutdown, don't use the power button on the case!

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As long as you don't long press the case button there should be no difference.

Execpt your OS is set to sleep on power button press instead of shutdown.

[–] Giu176@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know, I know. But when I learned how to use a computer at school 20 years ago it wasn't an option or if it was the teachers didn't want to take any risk.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It was actually the opposite: Further back in the day you made sure nothing was running and then you flipped a switch, or just shut the machine off (similar to holding the button nowadays, it was just off, that's it).

Then around Windows 95 and NT a proper shutdown became necessary to avoid data corruption, so the go-to was shut it down first in the software, then you had to shut down the hardware (Windows couldn't actually power off your machine back then).

Windows 98 was the first Windows with ACPI, which allows it to fully shut down your computer. So from then on all you had to do was select shutdown and that's it. I couldn't really find out when a soft power off (by short pressing the button) was first released, but it was probably around that time.

But kids are stupid, if you tell them to press the power button several of them will just hold it till the PC dies. So selecting shutdown has been the best option since Windows 98 and it still is today.

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Currently 0. It is off as I am not home.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 months ago

Always less than 24 hours. Why should I waste a lot of power for nothing? My PC is off when I sleep or leave the house for work.

Windows 11 currently, so regular restarts also help with stability (and I don't even notice updates, they happen on shutdown when I'm already on my way to bed).

My server obviously runs Linux and is on 24/7 in a datacenter.

[–] abstractastronaut@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Looks like it's currently at 547 days. Unless we're talking about my desktop computer, then it's rarely above 18 hours.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
➜ jeena@William ~ uptime
 13:11:51 up 8 days, 56 min,  1 user,  load average: 15,94, 16,38, 10,37
[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I turn off my PC every night... As for my home server it used to be at around 30 days before I turned off to upgrade it yesterday

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

I have a Mac, so it’s running since the last update and until the next update.

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

Ubuntu 22.04LTS
I turn it off when it's not in use because boot up time is like 30 seconds

[–] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago
daporkchop@hp-g6:~$  uptime
 07:28:16 up 1124 days, 19:48,  4 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.03, 0.00
daporkchop@hp-g6:~$
[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What is your system uptime?

The duration between kernel updates. (Arch Linux)

[–] thebirdwashere@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Last I checked my desktop was probably on for like 5 or 6 days, I'll have to check it tommorow, but I've gotten over a month before having to reboot for updates, also I usually just put my system to sleep when I go to bed(was trying to get around slow HDD boot times, I now have NVME but haven't broken the habit, plus nvidia drivers are being buggy and my viewport settings keep getting g reset upon reboot, plus I like to resume where I left off)

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 9 months ago

My laptop with OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has been up for 9 days. I even use it at night to listen to YouTube videos to sleep.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Windows 10, I had a power outage recently and haven't actually turned it on since.

[–] Marty_TF@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago

11 days 3 hours. i did write a script that suspends the pc to memory and rtcwake at a specified time, as basically my alarm clock. and during work, its suspended to disk. so, of those 11 days its been properly running for maybe 2 days.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Up until last week I had been running a esxi server on my old desktop. It had been up continuously for about 2 years nearly and technically it's still ran fine just it was time for an upgrade.

I know you specifically said no servers but I figured since it was commodity hardware then it should pass muster right?

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

22:22:43 up 2 days, 14:09, 1 user, load average: 4.84, 5.25, 5.51

Pop_OS 22.04 on a System 76 Oryx Pro 10

It'd be more like 8 days, but I let the battery die over the weekend.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

25 min. I just restarted it after kernel update.
It was around 3~4d or so.

[–] Brkdncr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Before monthly patch cycles were a thing this was a fun stat. Sometimes you’d find a netware server behind a wall with multi-year uptime.

Now I’m only interested in HA cluster uptime. My firewall pair has something like 4 years. My SAN is similar. I get alerts for anything else with 45 days of uptime or more.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Both Windows 10

My laptop reports an uptime of 25 days (this makes sense to me, I pretty much always put it in standby)

My desktop reports an uptime of 11 days (this does not make sense to me, I shut it down daily)

[–] MrSpaceMan1@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Fast boot makes it so that you never really shut down for faster boot times. However oyu can turn that off if you are having troubles with instabilities or generally not care about slightly longer boot times

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[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

PC is at 3 weeks

9900k @ 4.8ghz all core 64gb 29tb

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