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Tesla again threatens to sue Cybertruck buyers who try to resell the cars (arstechnica.com)

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 73 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I still don't get why people buy Tesla products. You know what they're like now. What are you doing?

[+] HERRAX@sopuli.xyz 48 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Personally, I'd never buy a Tesla because of how much of a pain they are to get repaired. Have to go to their service centers. You can't just go to some local repair place.

The nearest local center to me is about a 2-hour drive away. So firstly the car needs to function enough to actually get to the repair center, and then secondly I'm stuck there until they fix the car or I get a pickup to come home. Meanwhile, practically every other car I can just take to a local place and walk back home in 10 minutes.

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I will say that where you live makes a huge difference for this. I’m in a major metro area and I’ve never had to take it to a service center; they always come to my house. Having pretty much always lived here, I can’t really speak for living more rurally or even small-town but I’d guess there are other concessions one would make living there (just as we make concessions with our traffic, COL and distance to open space). But in this case it definitely hurts adoption from those areas.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

same, i actually love the car it's been super reliable and it's fun to drive. But having Musk rats dirty image attached to it makes me cringe every time i look at it.

I'm just hoping he somehow leaves Tesla and we can wash it clean somehow.

But as it stands ill never buy another Tesla.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please don't associate muskrats with musk. Muskrats are cute!

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

fair point.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Weird ad campaign, but OK.

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[–] lovesickoyster@lemmy.world 59 points 11 months ago (4 children)

how is this even legal? I don't think this would ever fly in europe.

[–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think they can’t even sell the cyber truck in Europe

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 32 points 11 months ago

They absolutely can't. This pedestrian murder machine will never be legal in Europe.

[–] lovesickoyster@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

thank fucking god.

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's legal if it's in the sales contract. Usually there is a timeframe.

You should look into Ferrari and their rules. They are even crazier than Tesla for things like this.

[–] lovesickoyster@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

It's legal if it's in the sales contract.

just because it's in the contract does not mean it can actually be enforced - for example, we can sign a contact where you agree that I can kill you, but obviously I would still get locked up regardless of having the contract. In the country I live in what ferrari and tesla are doing would be unconstitutional (I checked) - which, I guess, might be why we don't have any ferrari dealerships.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Your country put regulations about contract law in their constitution?

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[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why doesn't a Tesla smell like a new car? Because it has an Elon musk. (From dad joke lemmy a couple days ago)

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

after submitting a $122,135 order

The buyer told us that he paid a $250 order fee on Friday and previously paid a $100 reservation fee.

Tesla doesn't have to refund those types of fees if a buyer cancels

You have to pay $350 to get the privilege to fork over a hundred and twenty grand? My jaw literally dropped.

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You forget we live in a society where we have bought tickets and raffles for the chance of being able to buy Air Jordans or Yeezys or w/e fuck shoe that did that.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Actually, I missed that. And I'd rather go back to unknowing it. Shoe shopping is a chore, not a prize.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I've been wearing the same two pairs of shoes for about 4 years now. I thought one pair was failing earlier in the year, but the glue repair held and I've continued to wear them.

[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Car culture is weird

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tesla culture* Normal car enthusiasts aren't like this

[–] Azal@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly Tesla culture reminds me of any brand of car fanboyism. The ones I got most familiar with was the supposed "hot rodders" that viewed a junked out piece of rust that's sat in a field 20 years worth thousands of dollars to spend thousands of dollars to not drive it. Got sick of it as someone who's first car was a 70s one and attempting to find parts and pieces was people telling a high schooler to just take it to a shop and spend more than I've spent on my current modern car+motorcycle because none of them actually bothered working on their shit before.

Now I said that, there's also the motorcycle culture, and we're weird as fuck.

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[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 27 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I don't know why they want to stop people from selling them

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Man, stop linking to twitx

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Shitter

[–] negativenull@startrek.website 9 points 11 months ago

That is absolute gold right there

[–] cuchilloc@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This guy needs snow tires. You should also put snow tires for this condition even if it’s AWD, right ? Maybe even chains for an off-road slope?

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[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Are you able to return it if you dislike, or are you just fucked?

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly, you must let Tesla buy it back rather than reselling.

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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Tesla is hot garbage. This “truck” is proof.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Anybody buying one of these clown cars deserves all the bad that comes with it.

[–] JIMMERZ@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago

“You won’t own anything, and you’ll like it.”

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The whole Tesla truck thing really reminds me of the DMC DeLorean fiasco. Is musk imitating John DeLorean? He's falling about as fast. Both are silver and look weird.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The DeLorean looks awesome. You take that back.

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[–] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wait a minute, doc, you're telling me you built a TIME MACHINE... out of a Cybertruck?

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Tesla has revived a contract clause that says the electric carmaker could sue Cybertruck buyers for $50,000 or more if they resell during their first year of ownership.

As we reported a month ago, the Cybertruck-only clause was added to the public version of Tesla's Motor Vehicle Order Agreement Terms & Conditions and then deleted after the lawsuit threat attracted some attention.

The clause says Cybertruck buyers must offer the car back to Tesla at a reduced price before any attempt to resell the vehicle within one year of delivery.

"You agree that in the event you breach this provision, or Tesla has reasonable belief that you are about to breach this provision, Tesla may seek injunctive relief to prevent the transfer of title of the Vehicle or demand liquidated damages from you in the amount of $50,000 or the value received as consideration for the sale or transfer, whichever is greater.

People who made early Cybertruck reservations received their invitations to order the limited-availability Foundation Series edition on Friday.

As an Electrek article notes, it's unclear whether the clause applies only to the Foundation Series version of the Cybertruck.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just throw this shit up on Rocket League and end the line already. I think I already have those wheels.

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[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They arent ferrari, what are they thinking?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Supposed to stop scalping

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You have to be a colossal idiot to buy this car. You have to be an even bigger idiot to buy it from a scalper

[–] albert180@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds like the average Church of Elon Member to me (I'm pro EVs, but Elon/Tesla-Cultists are insufferable)

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I'm all for idiots being scammed to buy this, and I'm all for scalpers being left with a bunch of these things that nobody wants. Every possible outcome is amazing.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who is scalping the worst truck ever made? Even the people who put a down payment down don’t want one.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately there are enough lunatics who would buy this either as a joke, or because they see Musk as some prophet

[–] mowli@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

I really do not care - Musk and Cybertruck are way overrepresented here

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Why do they hate freedom of speech and expression so much?

[–] Dr_DOOM_@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I can't wait to see one of these dumpster fires on the street. I need a good laugh!

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