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[–] negativenull@startrek.website 79 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Like Firefly, but ruined by Kevin Sorbo (fuck that washed up POS)

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I don't like Sorbo either but him being present in the thing doesn't make the thing bad.

Hercules is still a good show, despite his Tweets.

Did he actually ruin Andromeda, or is it more of a "he's in it so I don't wanna watch it now" thing?

Edit: Oh. He really did ruin the show. Well. Carry on then.

[–] knotthatone@lemmy.one 15 points 11 months ago

The original showrunner eventually posted how he intended the story to go. It's a fun quick read about the better show that never got made:

https://www.cyberspace5.net/agentrichard07/coda.htm

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the info.

I remember the show getting worse with time, but I wasn't enough of a fan to seek out the gossip.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago

The only thing I like that involves him is that Lucy Lawless calls him “peanut”.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Why? I mean, he looks like one, but why?

[–] negativenull@startrek.website 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He is nothing but a Trump Christofascist troll on Twitter. Nobody will touch him (other than Left Behind/God's Not Dead series). The only value he has is getting entertainingly owned by Lucy Lawless.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How have I never seen Xena destroying Hercules. Can you post a link to this greatness?

[–] negativenull@startrek.website 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago

As far as I’m concerned, being called “boy Xena” is an enormous compliment, and Sorbo is far from worthy.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Man Kevin Sorbo is such a fucking douche. That was great, thanks for the entertainment!

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Regarding just Andromeda, I'm going to clip some text from wikipedia.

Controversy erupted in the midst of the second season, when series developer and executive producer Robert Hewitt Wolfe announced he had been released from the show's production [...] The reason for the change was purportedly to make the show more episodic and open to casual viewing.

And

In discussion on his website's forums and various interviews, Wolfe has elaborated that he was released from the production staff after he refused to shift the show's focus more heavily onto Kevin Sorbo's character, Dylan Hunt, by essentially making all of the show's episodes as Hunt-centric.

After that Sorbo become an executive producer on the show. The longer running plots set up by Wolfe were dropped and replaced by episodic low brow Hercules In Space stories. Looking at the quoted text above, it's clear that's exactly what the network wanted. Louder, dumber, and cheaper content to fill afternoon rerun time slots. Sorbo isn't exactly an innocent actor caught up in show with a management dispute, since he was the one who ended up getting Wolfe's job.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 46 points 11 months ago

To be fair to Kevin Sorbo, he did tank Kevin Sorbo's career. So he's not all bad.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Thank you, that explains a lot.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Because he is a complete loony extreme right-wing intolerant christian fanatic POS.
I used to like Andromeda, but now I can't stand the sight of him as Dylan Hunt.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] dejected_warp_core@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I dunno. Those may not be completely airbrushed in, but there's certainly some contouring going on.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah you're right. Even in his prime he doesn't had muscles on his muscles like a real demi-god.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Much like that "last man standing" guy

[–] HeChomk@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Dylan Hunt... Sounds like cockney rhyming slang... And it's so appropriate.

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Read his tweets: he's a bigot, Bible-thumping, anti-trans & anti-gay, Christofacist, Trump dick-rider, MAGA retard.

[–] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which has been are we talking about? I got distracted looking at pics of the actresses.

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

A bit of an odd approach to say that a show that 99% of people don't know exists shouldn't be Gene's legacy. Seems like it's just more likely to make people know about. A Space Streisand effect.

While it was not the masterpiece that Cleopatra 2525 was, the first season is kind of a look at some interesting ideas. It was written, developed, and produced by Robert Hewitt Wolfe, who had been a writer on Deep Space 9 for five years. I'm not going to say that first season is as good as DS9, but it is interesting looking at Roddenberry's unfinished notes filtered through the sensibilities of a DS9 writer. Once Wolfe got pushed out by Sorbo and the network executives scummy maneuvering, the show turned into the dumpster fire that it is known as, at least among the people who know it exists in the first place.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I liked it in the beginning, and had a crush on ~~Wolfe~~ edit: Woolvett back in the day. He was a cutie.

Sorbo ruined it.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean Woolvett? Wolfe was the writer/producer.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

lol, yes I did

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Cleopatra 2525

I was around in 2000s and never heard of this. I blame society.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

No one's fault but your own for being 5 centuries early.

[–] HairHeel@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They did this weird thing where they interspersed an episode of that with an episode of Jack of All Trades, IIRC.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Jack of All Trades,

Had to look that up. Bruce Campbell as a spy/superhero? How could I have missed that one?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I actually liked Andromeda, although a lot of the acting was just terrible. But I always enjoy Lexa Doig and Gordon Michael Woolvett as Seamus was fun.

But my god, the smugness just pours off of Kevin Sorbo.

[–] Zellith@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

This explains a lot. I wondered why it went from watchable to I wonder what else is onable.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

I don't remember much about the show, but I do remember there was a distinct tone shift in, I want to say, season 2 that made me go from "skeptical but willing" to "WTF is this bullshit?"

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Good looks outside can't mask the ugly person inside, that is Kevin Sorbo.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Honestly? I think he's ugly.

I think he thinks he's beautiful.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I so enjoyed his appearance in God of War III!

[–] plantedworld@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

The Andromeda ship was such a cool design, one of my favorites.

And I remember really enjoying season 1 of Andromeda in college, while also recognizing that it wasn't really a "good" show

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He was like the third Dylan Hunt in Gene's Book?

But damn was it fun but also confusing. Especially in the later seasons with the Sun's Avatar.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the Dylan Hunt casting had a downward trend.

Alex Cord in ‘Genesis II’ >> John Saxon in ‘Planet Earth’ >>>>>>>>>>> Kevin Sorbo in ‘Andromeda’

Although all the blond women leads - Mariette Hartley; Diana Muldaur and Lisa Ryder respectively - were all better actors than the content they were given to work with.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If I had to pick a Dylan Hunt, I'd pick John Saxon. But then I like John Saxon a lot. And Diana Muldaur.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

I’d say that I like the more intellectual, scientist version of the character in Genesis II.

But as with The Cage and the network’s reaction to Jeffrey Hunter’s original Captain Pike and the push for ripped shirts and fight scenes with Shatner, Roddenberry was pushed to get an actor with a more military, action hero vibe for his second attempt with Planet Earth.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

So hot that I watch the lifetime channel.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Part of why I loved every episode of Stargate she was in, smokin!

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

I always preferred Claudia Black. She had that twinkle in her eye.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 11 months ago

That's why I recognize the name! 🤦‍♂️

I keep seeing "Andromeda" pop up as a movie and thinking "I'm pretty sure I've seen that" but then don't recognize the description. Because I remember this show, not that movie!

I gotta find this shit and watch it again. I haven't seen it since it was new.

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