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[–] flumph@programming.dev 336 points 11 months ago (6 children)

These people don't even read their own literature. The Catholic church's ban on alchemy is about falsely claiming something is a valuable metal in order to pay for debts. It has nothing to do with the occult -- the ban was because it's a sin to lie / cheat / steal. A saint is even on record saying that alchemical gold is ok if the end if product is real gold.

With that context, of course God doesn't give a shit if you use SQLAlchemy as long as you aren't using it to defraud people. If you were defrauding people, it wouldn't matter what tool you used.

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[–] Naich@kbin.social 100 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I'm shocked that a person who thinks the name of a piece of software can harm them doesn't understand their own religion.

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[–] bh11235@infosec.pub 57 points 11 months ago

Now of course one could make some damning argument about the state of the tech industry in practice, resulting in one of those bell curve memes with "using SQLalchemy is a sin" on both far sides and "noooo it's just a name it's fine there's no fraud involved" in the middle

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If you were defrauding people, it wouldn't matter what tool you used.

Stays silent while coding the JezuzLovezU worm...

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[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 235 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Better not tell them about daemons I guess.

[–] Maestro@kbin.social 49 points 11 months ago

From the title of the screenshot I was sure it was going to be about daemons.

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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 180 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just wait until they learn about Daemons

[–] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 132 points 11 months ago (5 children)
[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 95 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Master/slave systems are probably a-ok for them though.

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 33 points 11 months ago

The only reason killing children is bad in their view would be if the child is unborn/not spawned already or if they want to abuse it but can't anymore.

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[–] PixelAlchemist@lemmy.world 163 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I don’t see how the term “Alchemy” is any different than “Transubstantiation”, and the Catholic Church seems pretty down with that.

Imagine living your entire life with this kind of fear. Religion does crazy things to people’s minds.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 49 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You say that and yet... APIs and XML-RPC are essentially the same thing. But APIs don't make me wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You... You shut your whore mouth. We don't talk about xml here

[–] GroteStreet@aussie.zone 49 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Go wash your mouth with some SOAP.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 49 points 11 months ago (4 children)
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[–] BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago

it's a severe mental illness brought on by trauma and people act like it's the most normal thing ever :/

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 27 points 11 months ago

Looking at the comments in that thread, people seem to agree that the question is silly

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 146 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yet they say “Easter Eggs”, referring to a Pagan tradition. As hypocritical as it gets.

[–] quams69@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They celebrate christmas, a pagan tradition they literally stole, the whole thing is fucking clownshoes

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 107 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The user shouldn't code in Python. That's a fucking serpent. It caused Eve to eat the apple. Original sin. Holy shit, the most popular coding language is from the fucking devil! Mask off, mind blown, what the eff.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 35 points 11 months ago (6 children)

On that note, I sure hope he doesn’t uses any Apple products either.

[–] palordrolap@kbin.social 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

TL;DR The fruit of the tree of knowledge being a literal apple is non-canon, being entirely based on a pun.

The word "apple" is not used in the Bible, that is, unless the Bible in question is a translation that specifically uses that word. Even then, see below.

The whole apple thing comes from:

  1. the fact that the word for "apple" can be used as a synonym for "(any) fruit" in some languages and context, and so could mean any fruit.

Think about French pomme de terre for "potato" which is literally "apple (meaning 'fruit') of the earth". Dutch has aardappel (earth apple) which is the same thing. Fun fact: Old English eorþæppel (earth apple) allegedly meant "cucumber". Go figure. But I digress.

  1. Latin is the main ecclesiastical language for one particularly influential branch of Christianity and one word for apple in Latin is "malus". That sounds like a lot of unrelated Latin words that start "mal-" that mean bad or evil, thus an apparent connection to the fruit of the tree of knowledge also leading to evil.

(I mean, it might actually be a proto-apple of some sort (modern apples did not exist 7000 years ago or whenever it was supposed to be) but the Bible doesn't specify.

Some scholars think that the whole thing developed out of metaphor for abandoning a hunter-gatherer lifestyle for farming. Others think that it might be a reference to beer / alcohol, which is one of the first things humans got interested in after farming.)

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[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 32 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Python is actually named after Monty Python's Flying Circus, so it isn't a serpent. It is so much worse.

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[–] Pfnic@feddit.ch 95 points 11 months ago (7 children)

This is the kind of person who would stick to IDE (with master and slave disks ofc) because S-ATA is only an N away from eternal damnation

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[–] Littleborat@feddit.de 84 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just skimmed this but shouldn't people who are unable/ubwilling to live in the modern world be true to themselves and also not code in some demonic language?

Just skip it and piss off dear catholic

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 11 months ago (13 children)

Wait until they learn about daemons

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 83 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Poor Mormons can't use Java.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 78 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It must be exhausting to go through life saddled with so much mental bullshit.

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[–] hactar42@lemmy.world 77 points 11 months ago (5 children)

import SQLAlchemy as SQLJesus

Problem solved

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[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 66 points 11 months ago (10 children)

I used to have an rpg on steam, with "fantasy" in the name. One day someone sent me an email asking if there was any way to remove all references to magic from the game so they could play it, as having witches and stuff was a big no for them, but they still wanted to try the game.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I remember when Bioshock Infinite came out, a few weirdos were demanding refunds because in the first 10 minutes of the game, a scene with a bunch of cultists requires you to click a button to "Accept Baptism" from them. They were refusing to push the button on religious grounds, and so they soft locked themselves out of playing the rest of the game. Smh.

[–] bh11235@infosec.pub 35 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Add a "refuse" button that pops up a short text box detailing the consequences. The End, credits roll. Problem solved, now they can all go explain to everyone on the forums why this is the best ending

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[–] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 65 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Alchemy isn't even a strictly occult thing. It was something done in the medieval era that was basically a very early form of science before most of the things they were trying to do were considered impossible

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[–] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 61 points 11 months ago (6 children)

This person is really gonna hate my new web framework "I submit to the horned lord, Lucifer, the light bringer and ruler of this world. All hail Satan."

I think it's gonna be big since it's the only web framework for Malbolge.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 61 points 11 months ago

Yes, it is. Please quit our profession and become a Mechanicus Techpriest.

Or, I guess, learn perl - it's sort of into that kind of thing.

[–] Jilanico@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago

Future TempleOS user

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oooh spooky alembics ⚗⚗⚗

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 55 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

[...]tempted [to use] another tool called "Peewee"

Oh yes, OOP is definitely a Catholic priest

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Use Ark to compress all your files and place them in a shielded metal box. Save yourself from the flood of solar flares that God will send to rid the world of all the sinful data. Make sure to include exactly 2 copies of each of God’s programs.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Based on the comments in here, this joke went over many heads... Does not want to use a tool called Alchemy, but has tried one called Peewee, as in using Peewees in catholic church is ok (Peewees is referred to kids in amateur sports between 12-13 years of age)

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[–] boringbisexual@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Just fork it and name it something else.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Religions have been doing this for millenia.

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[–] halm@leminal.space 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The sinful tools with occult names work. I think that should be a big pointer here.

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[–] AlijahTheMediocre@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This man probably hesitates to pick up a screwdriver when assembling IKEA furniture

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[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Poor thing. Wait until they learn what a single python did to humanity.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

"I installed Python on my Apple notebook. Guys.... am I responsible for the Fall of Man?"

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This post was a joke but I once had a woman scream at me for an hour that her account number had 666 in the middle of it. She was extremely upset that nobody warned her about this. She wanted a new account AND a refund for the entire time that the "sinful" account was active.

I should mention that her account was 15 years old at the time. The number never changed during that time it was always the same. She screamed so long and hard that they gave her a credit that essentially covered an entire year of service. I hate it here 😀

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