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PlayStation To Delete A Ton Of TV Shows Users Already Paid For::Sony says Mythbusters and more Discovery TV shows are going away whether you bought them or not

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 259 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you can’t own digital copies since they’re not property, then piracy isn’t theft.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Easy there on the sound logical arguments buddy, you'll have the lawyers shitting their pants.

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 148 points 1 year ago (18 children)
[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The irony is that I feel like I own my pirated content more than any of the digital content I've actually purchased in the past.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

Piracy gives you freedom, whereas paying for content just deprives you of your money

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 143 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They just want us to pirate everything right? Like, that is the only logical response to this.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The content you bought is available to be streamed on Discovery Plus, for a small subscription fee.

Just buy your content again, that’s fair right? You wouldn’t expect a perpetual license for the cash you parted with, that would be crazy!

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the perfect model. People only buy a DVD once, but this way you can keep them paying forever!

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[–] Vant@lemm.ee 75 points 1 year ago (15 children)

This isn't really Sony's fault. Discovery (who owns all these shows) are pulling them. Discovery sold them to people via the Playstation network. They sold them there and took your money. Now they want you to sign up to HBOMax to watch their dumb weak ass garbage.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well whoever is taking them away should reimburse the clients if they were not made aware that they didn’t own the show but were just renting it.

These behaviors are dangerous and shouldn’t be legal. You press « buy », you own the product, not the right to watch it for a few years.

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[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thanks for pointing that out, it is Discovery's decision. For their part though, Sony is still at fault as they didn't demand perpetual use rights for content sold on their store, or at least a full refund for the customer.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

This. Offer a refund. Discovery caused the problem, but Sony enabled it.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 29 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The absolute minimum they should be doing here is refunding everyone's money in full.

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[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is absolutely Sony's fault. Sony owns the platform, Sony took the money, Sony signed the terms and agreements with Discovery that let them pull the content users paid for.

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

I don't care who's at fault for this massive scam

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[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

this is an ad for piracy, right?

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[–] anubis119@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This seems illegal unless Sony reimburses everyone for the removed content.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It should be. But I would be extremely surprised if everything in the terms of service isn't worded something like "you're buying a license to view this content that can be revoked whenever".

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is, and IIRC you don't even "own" a movie even if you physically have it. You own the physical disc, not the content on it. Granted, it's a lot harder for Sony or Discovery to come kick down your door and take your copy of Ice Road Truckers so you have to rebuy it...

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[–] rifugee@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't own it when paying for it then you aren't stealing it when pirating it.

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[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Amazon does the same thing. You don't own digital content you pay for, you're renting it.

[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're paying to use their license, piracy or buying the media physically is the only way to own it.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If the button says"buy", ownership is inferred. That's a lie, of course.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You own it as long as they have a license to host and stream it.

They should be offering refunds for this at least, but you literally cannot own something that permanently lives on someone else’s device.

If you want to truly on something, you need to control physical access to it. If there is an option to download the media when you buy it, and you can store it on your own device, then you own it. If not, then you only have access as long as you’re paying someone else for access to their storage.

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I stopped piraring when I graduated college and streaming started to be wonderful. It is now a bleak hellscape that is more expensive than ever. Time to buy 20tb of hard drives and install Jellyfin I guess :(

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[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

People this doesn't affect are pirates. People who get to enjoy their media without worry are pirates. When pirates are getting the better experience and it's customers who are getting affected what incentive is there to not pirate other than personal morals. Because it sure isn't for a better product.

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"Buying" media with drm is a mistake.

I buy books from audible sometimes, but I immediately rip the drm out. Use Plex to store your movies and TV shows, it does music ok too now.

[–] ColonelPanic@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Give Jellyfin a try too. I switched to that from Plex after I realised they were trying to charge me money to use hardware transcoding on my own hardware.

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] cogitoprinciple@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Looks like enshittification of the internet is really kicking in. Decentralized platforms, and piracy needs to be the new normal

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[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why I buy the physical copies of shows/movies I like and just pirate the rest

Dont trust these guys to not screw you over

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I’ve pretty much switched to streaming and paying for content. This makes me question that decision. This just makes the pirates look right.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Piracy has always been the better choice

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[–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I went back to mp3s and flacs for my music a few years ago. And quickly followed that up with my own Plex server. Two of the best decisions I've ever made. If you're remotely tech savvy it takes no time at all and having every tv show, film, music, video that has ever released on all of my devices at any time within seconds is pretty sweet, for near-free

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[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago
[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What service do you use that lets you pay for and download the media files in that way?

The only one I know of is Bandcamp that lets you download the mp3s after you buy the album.

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[–] RHTeebs@startrek.website 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

This is why we must protect physical media.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not necessarily. A torrent is more sustainable. Eventually people with physical copies will die or they get lost/broken a torrent can be spread to many more people, making it less likely to die, and new users can get access to it. Just make sure to seed over 1x at leasy so you can spread it.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I wonder if the studios understand how much they are going to be shaking confidence in digital purchases by doing this. I know I'm going to think twice before I pay money for another digital copy of a movie or TV show.

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[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then shocked pikachu face when everybody goes back to the high seas.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remember, kids: When you pirate a show, you're intentionally abusing the cast and crew by withholding revenue from them! (Even though the majority of them do not make royalties from it and even those that do make peanuts compared to how much money the publisher just pockets.)

But also remember, kids: When the publisher decides to strip you of a show that you paid their explicitly specified "forever price" for, that's 100% their right and they would never do anything without the complete and uncritical backing of the people who made the show. And if you have any negative thoughts about that, you're also intentionally abusing the cast and crew by wanting to watch it when they have clearly spoken through the publisher that they definitely never want you to watch them again, and their only wish is that their media legacy will be erased from people's access at the drop of the corporate hat.

It's all about creators here at our humble multi billion dollar publishing company and digital rights brokerage!

[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

At least when Microsoft was pulling the plug on their music streaming service, they gave everyone the ability to just download all of the songs that you owned.

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[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago

So pirate the shows. Easy peasy.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why I only watch my VHS copy of Space Camp. Do you really own your media if you didn’t get Space Camp out of the 99¢ bin following the Challenger crash when movies about launching kids into space were on sale?

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[–] Tom_bishop@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Classic sony move. Remember Linux in ps2...

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

“Is there a way I can save this content?” asked one panicked PlayStation user on Reddit. “I use PS4...But I have bought many seasons of shows such as Dual Survival that I do not wish to lose. I was actually under the impression since I owned it, I wouldn’t ever lose it…”

Lol

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